Nimrod retirement
Nimrod XV250 flys into Elvington on 13th April 2010 its last flight but it is to be kept in ground running an dtaxiable state for events and taxy runs alongside the Victor and other aircraft.
Hi just a quick note on seafires.
SX336 and SX300 LA564 and LA546 are the ones I passed over to Peter Arnold from the Warrington Bus Depot Scrap Yard ex Stretton in the mid 1970’s.
MB293 we pulled up with the assistance of the French survey ship Laroche off the Maltese coast ex Halfar 1993/94 (cant remember exactly slept since then ). I think when some research was done by a guy called Bert Chivers (not sure if he is still with us). MB293 had some history and he thought that the SX serial aircraft had seen some action in a later conflict but I dont recall the details.
I have some photo’s of MB293 somewhere on the back of the ship and in the workshop will try and dig them out.
could these be
LA546/LA564/MB293/PP972/PR376/PR422/PR426/PR432/PR451/PR503/RX168/SR462/SW800/SX137/SX300/SX336/VP441
with MB293/PP972 & possibly RX168 having a WW2 vintage
Hi just a quick note on seafires.
SX336 and SX300 LA564 and LA546 are the ones I passed over to Peter Arnold from the Warrington Bus Depot Scrap Yard ex Stretton in the mid 1970’s.
MB293 we pulled up with the assistance of the French survey ship Laroche off the Maltese coast ex Halfar 1993/94 (cant remember exactly slept since then ). I think when some research was done by a guy called Bert Chivers (not sure if he is still with us). MB293 had some history and he thought that the SX serial aircraft had seen some action in a later conflict but I dont recall the details.
Your IMG_0004 and IMG_0008 look like a weapon cover from a ‘C’ type wing. You will find numbers on them that will not give the actual aircraft idendity, but will reveal the Spitfire Mark. The first 3 digits of the number will be in the 300 range and refer to the Mark. The next 2 digits will most likely be 08 for the wing, then there will be a 3 or 4 digit number that are the actual detail number for the part.
I don’t know what the other part is, but it is also some kind of cover panel.
access panel from under cockpit floor I think is the rectangular access panel possibly the one from under the bottom of the control column.
The QB has been a complete fuselage on wheels for quite some time now; restored as LF789. Come and have a look!
All the best
Bruce
Sounds interesting in 1977 she was a complete fuselage on undercarriage with her fuel tank on cabane structure and all the radio gear etc was in boxes.As was the best part of the wing structure.Obviously time robbed it of a lot of bits. have some pictures somewhere .Will take you up on your offer one of these days.
Sorry for diverting from the thread.
The numbers on the panels and parts stamped into them are normaly the drawing number and part number of the component and also the inspection stamp.
It is very rare that any information relating to a particular aircraft will be present and this is only normaly found for example when someone has recovered items from a particular aircraft crash and has marked the items as such.
Therefore sorry but you will not be able to connect parts to any particular aircraft
Turret
There was one I believe on the roof of a bar in the outskirts of Attard Malta until a few years ago. Speak to Ray Polidano at the Malta aviation heritage museum he has a number of turrets he might be a possibility.
00-356-21-416095
Remembering the fallen
The fallen of whatevewr nationality should be remembered.If more people took the time to pu tup more memorials to the fallen then some respect and history would be preserved in these strange times we seem to live in.
Well done for the effort keep it up !!!
Oh indeed – I just suspect you would have had rather less work had you received the aircraft straight from the Loch!
I do know a thing or two about Spitfires!
Bruce
Yes it would have been nice but I was nailing aeroplanes back together in warmer places at the time !!!!.
Oh indeed – I just suspect you would have had rather less work had you received the aircraft straight from the Loch!
I do know a thing or two about Spitfires!
Bruce
I know that
By the way how is my Queen Bee these days I understand you ended up with her ?.And a few other things
From beyond a watery grave !!!!
Indeed – had it been recovered within the last 10 or so years, it would have been a very viable candidate for return to flight.
I suspect that by the time you’ve restored the restorations, there wont be much original material left.
Bruce
Surprising how much is left after an aircraft hits the drink.And what you can do with it.
I can think of a few aircraft MB293 ,Z3055 and a lot of stuff coming out of water is today flying I can think of lots of Undercarriage legs,some centre sections and a lot of other stuff. Chrome seems to com eout of the sea as good as 50 years earlier when it went in. I lowered the undercart of a Hurricane using its own system in 4 hours. Pressure still in the bottle,inner tubes still partialy inflated.and chrome as good as new.All from 45 metres under the med. Oh Ye of little faith !!!!!!. You can do miracles with water !!
I’m amazed at how clean the inside looks. How far through the job are you?
I do not know much about previous work all I know is what we have done so far .This has invovled taking off all the fusleage skins except for two.Building Brand new frame 5 firewall,fitting out the cockpit area with all the fittings and brackets we can locate and salvage from the remains of the original aircraft that we have with us.And the manufacture of new fuselage skins and panels except for a couple of originals we have managed to rework.
The wings to be fitted will be new build aluminium ones.
The aircraft is due to roll out again late 2011 some parts are still being sought.
I rather thought the Beau’s “engine troubles” were that there aren’t any useable engines wahtsoever (military-spec. Herucles, that is)
Shame, really. Maybe they should bolt on some Merlins, paint it black and pretend it’s a Beaufighter II…:p
I know a man who has a couple of really nice hercules engines one definately war period and probably the right one.he also has all the machinery etc to manufacture hubs in his engineering company.
Anthing left in the scrap yards or at Hal Far anymore? Years back (late 1970’s) I remember a couple of big Douglas propliners in a farmers field just near hal Far? What ever happened to the connie bar which burned down, any bits or pieces salvaged from that aircraft post fire?
The DC3 went to Taqali as did the Beech c45 .The engines and props off the connies also went to Taqali. The yard on the hill with the two DC3 fuselages and canberra wings was cleared some years ago.The aircraft around Hal Far have also gone. Mr Paolo out near Kalafran still has some oddments and a radial from Ted Whites Harvard on his wall.
The yard EN199 came from is still inactive and full of all sorts of gems but not open for anyone to visit.Information via Aviation Museum.
The waters around Malta are full of wrecks as would be expected and all protected.There is no point bringing them up if you cant start work on them as they will be useless in no time. The Hurricane took 2 years from finding off Blue Grotto to raising the end result is mind blowing.
Malta
If you go to Malta
Go into the war museum in fort St Elmo and ask for contact with Frederick galea he is /was the secretary and I have been present when relatives etc have been helped by frederick who is very knowledgable.
You must also go to the Malta aviation Museum at Taqali right next to the national football stadium. In the short period of years since 1993 when we helped them get started with the rebuild for them of EN199 it has gone in leeps and bounds to a major collection .The Hurricane we got up in 97 has been transformed into a ground running taxiable beuty.
Ray or David Polidano at the museum will look after you and anyone else who wants to visit.they are open 7 days a week. Tel;00-356-21-416095
Ray can even put you in touch with Frederick as he works with the museum.
Anyone doing serious research or looking for parts will find very helpfull people to deal with.
visit their museum web site.