Good to know that the idiot who came up with all this politically correct rubbish has gone. Hopefully somebody removed his head from his own behind along the way. I don’t doubt that he had all the exam certificates to show that he was highly qualified to do the job but the problem is that in the modern world these certificates don’t come with a proper dose of common sense which I have always found to be pretty useful.
I am a bit sceptical that the RBL will back down and allow the project to continue but let’s see what happens.
The aircraft is still sitting in a HAS 5 months on an dis supposedly goin gup for sale in the next few weeks ,but no one is making comment and no one seems keen to answer enquiries about the aircraft.I know of over 50 enquiries for the aircraft for 2010 most of them have come to me.As previously stated short sighted idiots in the 70th anniversary year of B of B
at least run the year then look at sensible action plan.
It’s such a pity that the RBL is being discredited in the eyes of the world with fatuous comments about the RBL no longer focussing on the past etc…. What next, do away with the poppy?
So now the oik who caused the RBL such embarrassment has bu99ered off elsewhere…. His name’s not Adam Crozier is it?
No It was nt he was a retired Group Captain who got employed as a director of things he did not understand.Stuck his nose into things he did not understand and made stupid comments that embarrassed the RBL.
shackleton
Mods, I know there is a thread to do with WR963 already, but this is separate query.
I would like to know how many people would A) Like to see a shackleton fly again (in this country) and consequently B) Donate/support efforts to see one fly again?
Im not asking for naysayers please, I have a copy of the CAA feasibility report done with regards to returning 963′ to the air. the estimate for the work done on WR963 would cost somewhere in the region of £4-5million so not a small amount of money, but a significant amount of money.
So, once more, how many of you would like to see a shackleton in the air again and how many would help/donate towards this goal?
Cheers
Ben
i have worked on all types including Growlers and in fact I worked at Woodford so have a passing aquaintence with both the Shackelton and the Vulcan.
I have actualy been down to Coventry more than a few times (having also worked for AA).The principle is great and I would support it and in fact we even looked at the feasibility of moving her to Elvington with lots of runway etc.and the Museums verbal blessing we could undertake the work on her there.I am all for it BUT as I have said in a previous thread there is the big issue of key spares.She has tons of airframe spares BUT a shortage of Key hydraulic and major electrical spares in fact she has a big shortage of generators. Wing spar billets aint a problem £72 K for the set last time of asking but a lot invoved as they have to be drilled aircraft specific and therefore a lot of implications if someone screws it up.
When we looked into the issue of the key spares I was told well there is an airframe here and two in Cyprus and one in the USA. Great but if the key parts are knackered on those airframes and you run out of spares at an airshow away from base then what ?.
Funding is not realy an issue as I know there are an awful lot of growler fans out there as I own the domain Avro Shackleton .co.uk that should give you a clue. But Spares issues must be nailed down firmly before any further responsible action can go ahead.
At the end of the day its supporters and sponsors money and you need to look to giving them value for money with a reasonably long display life.From memory I think its around 3,500 hours from major to extensions on proviso before next spar boom mod/relife.
All for it and go for it guys if you can nail the key spares issue’s. We will give what support and engineering effort we can and possibly also some input from one of our sponsors.
Regards Keep up the good work
Mike Eastman
In addition to the above question that seems to have been forgotten
Does she still not need a major rear spar mod fairly soon in her flying life?
im sure only the front of back spar has been done
Just to put ten pence in is not 963 in the situation that she needs an estimated 4 million to ever fly again . full break down and Respar with the billet blanks costing 75 k.lots of airframe bits but a shortage of major electrical and hydraulic spares ?. or has someone fell on a pot of Growler parts other than those sitting on static frames rotting in different parts of the world ?.
I think the general poin tis that should we not think seriously these days about the viability of putting these large and complicated airframes back into the air.Great we raise the funds to get them there but I sometimes feel we need to do an awful lot more to make sure they are viable and the parts as well as finance exist to keep them there for a good long while .
Hi all,
Does anyone one here have a contact number for the persons responsible for taking the replica Spitfire around open days. Some people may remember this aircraft at the last Elvington Airshow…. I think she currently sits in a HAS site at RAF Leeming.
Phil.
Hi Phil
Just dropped in after a long absence.I have left a full current update on the forum.The aircraft as has been said is sitting in HAS21 were is has been since 24th November 2009 supposedly up for sale !!!!.We all got the cold shoulder for no reason so we have given the RBL the royal salute and we now have our workshops building warbirds and Spitfires real and replicas and support worthwhile charities like Help for Heroes.
Mike E
A bit slow, its been so cold this winter and cant do much in the freezing garage. I also have a problem with obtaining a Mk1 front screen. My original supplier GateguardsUK failed to deliver after many delays and I understand have recently ceased trading. However I have been offered some assistance in obtaining dimensions.
So it wont be at Eshott (or anywhere else) this year, Still need to work out how to transport it safely!
Hi Guys just put a new thread with all latest info on the spitfire ex RBL variety.
We are now running our own spitfire workshops with the Dumfries aircraft and a few replicas currently in build the replicas are ex Gate Guards (what a **LLs UP).If we can help drop me a mail direct [email]mike@firefly53.freeserve.co.uk[/email]. 07803-809883
Regards Mike E