…and here was their reaction:
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Fear not fellow Shokun! These guys are coming (and they know what they’re doing):
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Your point was?
Mrmalaya, we understand this is the early stages….Bae’s commitment is £2.7 billion over a number of years…getting partners is important for a number of reasons, including political support, not just finance.
Leonardo (formerly Finmeccanica) which is one of the top 10 defence contractors in the world (order book €33 billion). The Italian state has a one third stake in the company and has a commitment to help social cohesion. Italian government support would be one way to help their economy and to help provide employment in hi-tech sectors.
You will remember the two new carriers were ordered by a Labour government!…..Gordon Brown was pleased to spend £ billions to help Scottish shipyards…..BAe can take a leaf out of LM who’ve spread their plants over 40 states to get support in Congress….The 2020 elections are by no means a forgone conclusion….in any case Jeremy Corbyn might surprise a few people by supporting hi-tech jobs in conventional weapon programmes.
Tony, we are talking of the Edinburgh branch of Leonardo, the old GEC Marconi, the chaps who design and build the Vixen radar series, the Typhoon radar, etc.
wow deinosaurus, you really only do follow Chinese aviation and nothing else.
It was mentioned several times on this first page that Japan quit
they are now directly asking the US to help design it with them with Northrop and Lockheed making offers.
And Boeing. And BAE.
There was a Japanese MOD delegation at the unveiling.
That incredible moment when the coverage of the unveiling of “Team Tempest” and the UK´s Combat air strategy is vastly better done by the chaps of the Key Publishing Forum than by the likes of Janes, Key Aero, AW and Flight Global…
Mods: It’s the same posters over and over again.
Instead of nuking whole threads, get rid of the culprits (the same ones each time).
I have been here for 20 years under a different name or two…this is getting worse.
No its not, far from it.
Look to a decade old topic on Typhoon, Raptor or Rafale, or a five year old on Dave and the type of flak that the SU-57 receives today is entirely tamed by comparison. Every time that the likes of APA, Winslow Wheeler, etc, threw an article about the JSF program the level of silliness in this forum went totally of the scales.
Worse several posters that are now claiming that there is a Western conspiracy against the latest Sukhoi product had (actually “have” ) absolutely no problems in “nuking whole threads”.
Yes. The referendum will happen in spring 2020, while the aircraft and SAM system will be chosen at the end of the same year by the government. I’m actually not sure if the budget itself will be voted on, but there isn’t much room here unless cut are done in othe critical part of the army.
Thats a huge plus for the most capable (and expensive) platforms. With the Swiss MOD not having to go through a gruelling referendum AFTER the platform has been chosen they can aim for the most capable ones, unlike the last time when they choose the cheapest.
Sintra wrote No, no RAF Phoon has been stored.
There are about 9 Typhoons stored at Shawbury
Also 3 or 4 stored at Coningsby
Plus some undergoing RTP at Coningsby then scrapped
Plus a few frames in storage at Warton
Thanks for the correction Havequick.
Cheers
Which brings me to another question: have any of the RAF’s Typhoons so far been conserved/stored?
Allegedly 149 Typhoons of all tranches have been delivered to RAF so far. Some have been lost in accidents, but are also some just not used actively?
No, no RAF Phoon has been stored.
Says the country with ZERO operational VLO experience to the country with DECADES of operational (and wartime) VLO experience. :stupid:
KGB is not a “country”…
The windshield comes down and then there are 2 spherical bumps protruding out. Very questionable setup. RCS compromising.
We have a RCS specialist right here…
Your “analysis” come from where? Southfront or are you using the “eyeometer”?
27 T1 will be discarded (or available for purchase?).
Most certainly neither, part of those 27 airframes are in the Falklands and several twin seaters are with 29 Sqn, the Typhoon OCU. Expect the several airframes to be rotated through the two front line sqns and the OCU.
there are more nations currently with Mig 29’s in service than there is of F-16’s in service.
You are not very good at checking
I can only talked about i was told there. And i xas said (asking aout efcas btw) no, no follow on until Gripen E is operational. Whatever public says.
WAnt a photo in pm?
No need, i perfectly believe in you, and what i wrote complement your text above, they are not mutually exclusive. Thing is the Gripen E will be delivered next year, will get IOC in two years, the Swedes only ordered enough airframes to cover part of their Sqns and if they want to replace the rest this is the time to start looking for a possible follow on, all this dovetails nicely with the SAAB chaps talking with the likes of BAE, Airbus, Dassault and so on.
one F-16i was completely downed & one F-15 was damaged and something happened to an F-35.
One F-16I was shot down; Al Arabiya TV reported that one F-15I was damaged, the claim was based on its “own sources”; acording to the IDF/AF a bird struck an F-35 or vice versa and finally that highly “credible” site Southfront made a bonfire of it all…
Amusing, if someone goes to the SU-57 topic and starts with sillyness about Syria, Sukhoi´s, Raptors and F-35´s, your reaction is “YOURE A TROLLLLLL“, but in the DAVE topic, good old KGB goes “a F-16 was downed, one F-15 was damaged” and “the F-35 was hit in Syria”… Based on… bleeding South Front!
The F-35 that was hit in Syria
Facepalm