Not to break the ambiance, but i spoke one year ago with Sweden Chief of staff and SAAB representatives at swaf fans meeting (can’t go this year, in England š ). Saab did not think about any fiture plane as Gripen is not yet operational.
SAAB has been working on a follow on capability for the best part of a decade, thats pretty much public.
The Flygvapnet fields six front line sqns, ordered sixty “E” with a possible follow on order of twelve airframes, not enough to maintain their fleet, that means that the C/D’s will soldier on untill being replaced by… something… circa 2040 (I supose)
Cheers
About maned fighter, some CGI at the end of this picture https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3UtJ6u0QL0 from dassault.
Its the first glimpse in a decade and a half of what Dassault “thinks” of what a “future” manned combat jet should look like.
Similar to several designs from Boeing and Northrop.
Then the Australian Navy could do the testing of the engines under tropical conditions…
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US Navy ships using RR MT30“s have been almost continuosly deployed to the region since 2013.
Brits blatantly lying, how unusual.
Dont quite remember Brits “blatantly lying” and in this particular case the chap was a Belgium working for Airbus with the backing of Airbus.
It seems Airbus DS has a nasty habit of counting chickens before they’re hatched. As part of the Finnish HX program, they promised, as an offset, access to satellite imagery for intelligence purposes (to prepare strike missions, among other). Well who operates intel MIL sats, Airbus DS or governments/millitaries? Hm…
On that particular case he was refering to the German SAR-Lupe/SARah programs, Airbus had received aprovall of the German MOD.
Might be a surprise (why?) for our French coleagues here, but yes, just like the French MOD is offering access to SCAF to potential allies and Industrial partners, the German MOD is doing the exact same.
My ass.
Your ass is wrong, the offer is backed by Airbus and the German MOD.
It’s not upside down
The aerofoil on Replica is inverted compared to most (all?) others and generates lift more effectively in that orientation
The pilot is sat inside the fuselage (like one of BAe’s concepts from the 90s)
What you think is the canopy is in fact a blister for a huge combined EO and DEW system
You are displaying a bit of British humor, am i correct?
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Where are the services RFI, RFPs?
On the exact same place that the USAF, VVS, PLAAF, or any other country with enough budget and national design and production capability, deliver them, with their national defense industry…
Where is the competition that nurture new aggressive way to search for innovations, performance and ensure efficiency?
OH, please describe me the massive competition that we have in places like Russia, China and so on, for aerospace combat capabiliy… Even the US with its absolutely massive military budget can only maintain two and a half national design teams in house.
Where you expecting that France could maintain two or three diferent companies capable of designing and producing cutting edge military aerospace with THAT kind of budget?! Or let me guess, you were expecting that the Adla/MN would open a competition to LM for their next fast jet capability?
Where is the epicenter of decision now?
Exactly where it should be, in the German and French MODĀ“s…
let the circus and the money burning start over
Thats rich! Do i have to remind you of every post that you“ve posted in this forum drooling about that, oh so much efficient program called the JSF?!
There are three basic options for the French/Germans (and British, Italians, Spanish, Swedes) for the replacement of their air combat capability, a) increase their defense budget and go national (the only ones who can go that route with ease are “Ze Germans”), b) pool their resources (what the Germans and French are doing) or c) buy American. I have absolutely no doubts on your favorite option…
You seemed to forget that the only reason Airbus lost was that they protested the first decision (for Boeing) which resulted in the second contest (for them). However, the second contest was not run according to the rules, which is what Boeing protested which lead to a proper third contest, which went for the original winner, Boeing.
Airbus never protested any “first decision” (or any other for that matter) in the KCX program, the first decision was taken on 29 February 2008 and it was a victory for Northrop/Airbus, Boeing filed a complaint to the GAO that was upheld, a new competion was launched, with new specifications, Northrop stated that those new specifications were advantaging Boeing and got out, the USAF gave the victory to Boeing in February 2011, EADS declined to protest and said that the Boeing offer was so agressive in pricing that it entailed a very high risk of financial losses for the company (guess what happened…).
Before the KCX program got launched, we had a Boeing executive and a USAF procurement chap thrown into jail for “criminal wrongdoing” (AKA corruption) after the US CONGRESS (not Airbus) had made a hell on earth about a plan for a lease contract between the USAF and Boeing for KC-767. Boeing payed fines and its CEO resigned.
I hope the French and Dassault are not expecting Germany to pay for anything. If so, it will languish like Typhoon development.
Last time i’ve checked Germany has been paying every single cent that it signed in contracts with the Industry.
because that’s absolutely the path the EU industry has shown us in the past 20y: from the A400, Tiger, NH90 to the Rafale, everything has been cheaper and inherited from being late superior capabilities not even fielded 20 years before⦠Hoo-Ha
Because the competion has been, oh, so much better….
Programs like the ATF, JSF, KCX, LCS, DDG1000 have been such an outstanding sucess, on time and on budget, dont they?
And whats your proposal? Shutting down the military branches of Dassault and Airbus, while buying American, correct?
For someone supposedly French (am I correct?) I cant fail to noticed some very biased opinions AGAINST French and European programs…
I expect that German auto industry wont be happy with that outcome. In fact I would say they would be downright hostile to any German government that allowed such a outcome.
Newsflash, its not something that a German government can “allow” or not, its entirely dependent on Donald, something that its not lost this side of the pond and just like AUDI, BMW and Mercedes are not particulary happy about that possibility, Apple, Microsoft and severall other US companies, namely Boeing and Lockheed Martin would/should/are(?) hostile to any US government that endanger their exports to the European Union and Canada, or do you believe that somehow that kind of tariffs wont be answered in kind?
How do you think that a Der Spiegel editorial saying “The biggest military acquision program in three decades goes to the Donald” would look like for an SPD/CDU German government?
I think it would go down a bit better then a report that US is putting a Tariff on German auto exports into US.
You would be dead wrong, the US voter does not have a monopoly on being a silly nationalistic chap on its bad days.
Remember that IAF has B707 tankers and has been practicing refueling their F-35s.
I supose that Saudi Arabia and Iraq will be ok with IDF AF refuelers flying over their air space while refuelling Adirs?
IF and that is a huge IF you believe it… Where did they refuel btw? Because described missions largely exceed range…
The article is beyond silly, Karajrak is North of Tehran and Bandar Abbas is right next the Persian Golf, near Ormuz, thereĀ“s a 1000 kmĀ“s + distance between them, and there is a 2500 kmĀ“s distance between Israel and Bandar Abbas… The IDF AF would have to mount multiple flights, refuel around Baghdad for the Northern targets and over Iran, Kuwait or Saudi Arabia for Bandar Abbas.
Next some Syrian chaps will claim that a S200 shot down a Adir… Its on the exact same level of sillyness
I don’t see trade discussions on minor aspect of the massive flows of products correlated with defense purchase.
How do you think that a Der Spiegel editorial saying “The biggest military acquision program in three decades goes to the Donald” would look like for an SPD/CDU German government? The Luftwaffe Commander in Chief just lost is job after making a few favorable comments about “Dave”, after this last weekend any RCAF officer will think twice about doing the same.
Hell, Canada just saw its biggest allie and trade partner slapping tariffs on its exports and its Prime Minister being bullied by the Donald on “National Security” grounds! Canada?! The chaps who had the third biggest “butcher bill” in AĀ“stan right after the US and the Poms? You couldnt make this up.
For the foreseable future the Trudeau Government will be extremely sympathetic to LM and Boeing cause…