it may be a candidate for secret program đ , we dont know everything đ
A secret program that is shown in the Air Force Association Technology Expo 2012? đ

not quite , the number of F-35 will be much larger than F-22 , and it is intended to replace F-16 so it will also do escort/air dominance mission and CUDA can be use as last defence when the F-35 retreat
Djcross is right
CUDA is a LM concept that was presented without getting any Pentagon backing. There´s no requirement, program, stated intention, whatever, from any Pentagon official to develop something like CUDA.
Its a LM internal program stating something “look we can do this”, while at the same time maintaining and developing design skills, nothing else, nothing more, what its not is a Pentagon program with a requirement, budget and development contract.
Be well people. May your cinematic visions one day grace a screen in a theatre near me.
Here you go:

Careful with that analogy — my 4-year-old saw the fire extinguisher in the house the other day and asked what purpose it served.
I explained it to him.
He thought about it for a long time. Then he asked if we could use it. I said no, we would only use it in case of a fire. He did some further deep thinking but did not ask any further questions.
I then decided to make sure that all matches in the house were well out of reach from him!!!
sorry for OT.
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I have also a 4 year old and he seems to think very much inline with yours!
In my house the matches and the lighters are all stationed two meters above ground because of the same sort of things. đ
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in the same way, the US military, having been the world’s dominant air and sea power for the last 60 years or so, has pretty much stalled in the way it thinks and fights, while the Chinese underdog/dragon is adopting new technologies at unseen speeds, anything from UAVs to cyberwarfer to stealth and laser technology
Last time i´ve checked the US Military field more UAV´s than the rest of the world combined, they (probably) are the originators of things like STUNEXT, they are the only ones who field operational aerial stealth assets, and are the indisputed leaders in military lasers.
They were also the originators of the recent PGM revolution, (the expenditure of massive numbers of PGM munitions versus “dumb” munitions) the biggest transformation in aerial warfare since the apearance of the ME262 over Germany.
So acusing the US military corps of being “Traditionalists” by comparison with their Chinese and Iranians counterparts is… well…
That’s a new one, normally life-cycle cost is calculated from introduction
into service, rather than at some stage during development.
Yes, normally its calculated from the induction into service, but i know a few other documents who used diferent data, the UK NAO “Management of the Typhoon Project” doc used the first production contract date.
Another tidbits:
– Canadian MOD calculated the costs based on the assumption that the produced numbers would be the ones described in the 2006/07 MOU
– They estimate that a reduction of 400 JSF´s produced would increase the direct acquisition costs (Unit Recurring Flyaway cost) for Canada by “$500 million” (9490 million Canadian $ instead of 8990 million Canadian $)
Bit astounded that no one noticed that the Canadian MOD released the F-35 reports that led to the dumping of the direct acquisition program.
I am giving it a preliminary reading, a few initial numbers:
Unit Recurring Flyaway cost – 92,18 million Canadian $ ,
Acquisition program – 8990 million Canadian $
Full Program Life-Cycle Cost Estimate (2010 â 2052) – 44820 million Canadian $
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Dude, seriously, who’s the dbag that decided we need FEWER boomers that carry fewer missiles? I mean c’mon, we should have AT LEAST 18 boomers that are even bigger and more bada$$ than the ones they’re replacing. I’m thinkin’ something double the size of the Ohio class with twice as many missiles that carry twice as many warheads.
Gotta think BIG!
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Yeah,BIG
I have another great idea, lets burn the entire US Navy budget for a decade on one single, entirely useless, Boomer:

Now carry on, nothing to see here…
Was just watching a documentary about maple flag and i noticed one of the f-16d models had a dorsal spine fitted . Now this is normal for foreign vipers but the machine had Usaf markings . Is this part of the mlu updates for the F-16
No.
You might have been looking to this:

or this:

or this:
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The first two were prototypes, the third is from the 425th Fighter Squadron, the âBlack Widowsâ, its a USAF sqn, but its mission is to provide advanced weapons and tactics continuation for Republic of Singapore Air Force’s F-16 pilots and maintenance personnel.
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Ok, but 1,8 Mach with 6AAMs is still impresive during BVR.
Remember that EF-2000 is almost clean in this configuration, and pilot will drop all the tanks before launch AMRAAM in BVR to gain energy better (like F-15C pilots doing during Allied Force – they drop tanks 50km from target, and then go supersonic up to 1,4 Mach and 35k ft alt , and fire AMRAAM from around 25km).
F-22A is still the best in this area right know, but EF-2000 has better energy in BVR than F-35.
F-22A, PAK-FA, EF-2000 and the others NG fighters will have better energy than F-35 ( max 1,6 Mach speed) during BVR fights.
Dont forget that mixing LO with the range and performances of a Typhoon would end up with something pretty similar to a Raptor… Including costs…
Probably because:
A. Its turning and dog fighting ability make the F-35 look like a Fokker triplane
I am aware that there are some obsolescence issues with some electronic components in Dave, but i wasnt expecting them to be so severe! :diablo:
Just joking…
B. Its A-G ability is pretty zilch.
C. Its about as stealthy as a north Sea oil platform.
D. You would need your own oil platform to buy and operate it.
E. there aren’t many of them in the world – around 110?
It was just nitpicking
Except for the F 22 which is always “clean” no othar A/C can sustain 2M armed.
Mach 2.3 for more than 300 NM while carrying six AAM´s count?

Yeah, a bit of nitpicking on my part but in these discussions sometimes we tend to discount this particular beast.
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Don’t worry – the world won’t end for a long time. Always assuming it’s still here December 22nd, that is đ
Dont know, between you and Swerve the levels of “common sense” in this topic are reaching alarming levels ! đ
Sod it, i am going to Bugarach… Now where is my tin hat?
just telling the truth although OT
You were comparing the incomparable, the “Stryker” program with the “BMP” and some suposedly learnt or not learnt lessons around the use/development of the M-2 Bradley by the US Army.
Any sensible discussion about the Stryker and its Russian equivalents would note the obvious, the Stryker is not a Bradley and is not a BMP. The Stryker doesnt perform the same missions that those two perform, it was not designed to operate in the same manner or in the same enviroment that a BMP and a Bradley work…
Thats why the US Army fields the Stryker and the Bradley, and strangely thats exactly what the Russians do with their BTR´s and BMP´s.
Mind you, look at what the magnificent (not) job the Russians did with the BTR-90 program…