Agreed.

I was not aware that the F-22 did partizipate in any Cope India exercise lately..

Didnt you heard? It participated in Cope India 2031…

i just seen a very interesting video , it seem that while it impossible to make fighter invisible in infrared , reduce ir signature could have great effect in detection range
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlWQsW4ZZfQ
especially from 1:07 to the end 😮 you guy can see the different between a helicopter and a Rafale with some paint reduce IR signature :eek::eek:

Thats quite a ridiculous movie…

Its entirely useless to compare the IR signature of multiple objects if you are not using the exact same sensor and external conditions.

Whilst I dont doubt that the bigwing, tvc ,fin details are fantasy we are not yet sure what a “normal” T3 is are we?

Will it have cfts as standard or just the plumbing for them?

I would imagine that those Oman aircrafts would be AESA equiped and IF Saudi Arabia or anyone else orders CFT´s they could also receive them, if not…

Cheers

Well Done Eurofighter

AW take on it:

The Sultanate of Oman has finally signed a long-awaited contract to buy 12 Eurofighter Typhoon fighter aircraft.

The deal signed in Oman on Dec. 21 also includes eight Hawk jet trainers and in-service support. In all, the deal is worth £2.5 billion ($4.06 billion).

Manufacturing of the aircraft is due to begin in 2014, with first deliveries in 2017. The new Typhoons will replace Oman’s increasingly elderly fleet of Sepecat Jaguars, while the new Hawk Advanced Jet Trainers (AJTs) are likely to replace the fleet of Hawk 100s used for training.

Negotiations with Oman have been continuing for more than three years, and were recently complicated by difficulties with a trio of corvettes destined for the Omani Navy that were being built in the U.K.

The sale of the Typhoons is part of a major drive to sell British defense equipment to Middle Eastern countries. U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron continues to lobby the government in Abu Dhabi for a possible sale of the Typhoon for the United Arab Emirates and was reportedly in meetings with officials about the aircraft during a recent visit to Dubai in November.

Hailing the Oman deal, Mr Cameron said: “Boosting exports is vital for economic growth and that’s why I’m doing all I can to promote British business in the fastest growing markets so they can thrive in the global race.”

“Every country in the world has a right to self-defense and I’m determined to put Britain’s first-class defense industry at the forefront of this market, supporting 300,000 jobs across the country,” Cameron said.

As well as the sales drive to the UAE, BAE Systems is continuing to work on the sale of a second batch of Typhoons to Saudi Arabia. However the company is struggling to reach agreement on price, and it warned earlier this week that its 2012 earnings could be affected should a pricing agreement not be reached.

Saudi Arabia has so far taken delivery of 24 out of 72 Typhoons it ordered under the Al-Salam deal, reportedly worth around £4.5 billion. Test flying has now commenced on the first batch of aircraft in the final 48 destined for Saudi. These aircraft had been due to be built in-country, but a contract change announced earlier this year will see the aircraft now being completed in the U.K. at BAE Systems facilities in Warton, Lancashire.

http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.aspx?id=/article-xml/awx_12_21_2012_p0-531469.xml

JF-17 has tiny RCS due to DSI technology, and devastating RD-93 engines.

And dont forget the JF-17 “Zwei” generation…

Pilots don’t just jump into a fighter like the F-35 on a “visit”. It takes weeks of prep and sim work to get to that point.

I think that Swerve was sugesting the oposite, a F-35 pilot who visited ETPS (and maybe worked with them for a while?). In theory it might be possible, there are quite a few British chaps who have flown the F-35.

This is a highly dubious claim to say the least. As far as i know no Swedish pilot has ever flown the F-35 and no EPTS* pilots has ever flown the F-35, so that begs the question who was this pilot?

*I assume you mean Empire Test Pilots’ School

Good question indeed, the ETPS pilots CV´s are posted on their web page and there´s no trace of JSF in there.

in your image the flir looker at the B-2 , F-22 from lower altitude , the aircraft against very cold sky
but when a f-35 try to retreat , pilot may decide to dive down to lower altitude than enemy and fly a ways 😀 , so trying to find a cold aircraft in a clutter back ground would not be that easy

The F-22 doesnt have a FLIR or an IRST…
That image was taken at ground level using a RAF Rapier SAM IR chanel, the B2 was making low level flyby´s over RAF Fairford.