I’m aware of the association between the French and “cheese eating”…..

But other nations also have their own cheese-making traditions and expertise, and produce some individual cheeses that are every bit the equal of any French cheese, though these nations may lack the ‘strength in depth’ of the French cheese industry.

Britain may not make a decent soft cheese to rival Brie or Camembert, but we do make the king of blue cheeses in the form of Stilton, though the Italians may beg to differ and may offer up their own evidence in the form of Dolcelatte or Gorgonzola.

And there is something unique about Edam, Gouda, Jarlsberg and Havarti, about Manchego and Roncal, about Provolone, Pecorino, Mozzarella and Parmesan, and about Wensleydale, Cheddar and Cheshire.

All of which might lead the unbiased observer to conclude that while the French may lead the world in soft cheeses (and arguably in blue cheeses, too), it is not a world leader when it comes to hard, pressed cheeses.

And the Swiss make great Cheese, too, if you’re looking for a mild but savoury and nutty ‘bite’. And Emmental is famously full of holes, which makes holy cheese more associated with Switzerland than with France. (Yes I know they make Emmental and Gruyere in France as well, but they are Swiss cheeses, just as Mimolette is basically a copy of Dutch Edam).

The only commonly known French cheeses with holes are Emmental (a Swiss cheese) and some (but not all) varieties of Comté – a much less famous cheese.

So it should be “as full of holes as Swiss cheese.”

All that talk of cheese has made me hungry. I’d really fancy a nice bit of Brie de Meaux……

Pair it with this:

Stephen Maturin and Jack Aubrey would surely recomend it.

The Eurofighter is a full 1 tonne lighter than the Rafale but its engines are significantly more powerful in both dry
and wet thrust.

China’s bigger radars will invariably mated to the SD-10
already the longest range (reportedly) BVRAAM in the market

While most of the Eurofighter is made up of composites, the
Rafale in addition to having a fundamentally unstealthy curvaceous layout is also overwhelmingly metal, making it much more visible to radars

Etc, etc, etc

Man, quite smoking grass, it does no good to your health!

when the swiss say:

“we can’t do what we do today with it, so we’ll probably have to adapt our proceedings to the aircraft’s abilities”

Right, if they get an evolved Gripen with 40% more fuel than the standard “C” they cant do what they do today… with the F-5E Tiger?!!!
Write some wild assumptions, take several real quotes from officials out of context mix them all et voilá, a piece hit.
But TMOR is right, i am going to stop this in the RFALE topic.

what is that :eek:? the top one looks good

Those were the competing designs from Vought, Boeing and Lockheed that lost to the aircraft that you mention below, the simple fact that you were unaware of this particular competition speaks volumes of your know how.

Thunder’s DAS is far better than F-16 Block 52+’s

Right… Dont forget the bump air intake and generation swei…

and what would it compete with in the 1972 LWF competition? on top of my head: Mirage III and F-5 😀

?!!

Try this:

There were two other competing designs who went ahead to the fly off phase, but those two are quite famous…

agreed agreed. 😀 Thunder was built for aerodynamics, cruise speed and range, not for top speed

No, the JF-17 was built to give something near contemporary 4G dynamic performance and BVR fire and forget AAM capability, this at the cheapest possible price.

I just read about the 2 Billion cost to equip the cariers for conventional operations.
I can’t believe it would cost so much.
How far along is the QE and PoW construction?

QE is pretty far down the road (nice video here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18078016), enough probably to discount the idea of stoping work and do the integration of the cats now (has oposed to complete the ship “has his”).

We still have our Searchwaters.

Blimey…

Thanks BME.