You mean… something like this?

Close but not quite, something along the Italian GP FREEM , the Italians maintained the anti-submarine hardware and added the Kronos NVER together with an ASTER 30 capability into those “Frigates”.

My girlfriend was at work, HMV, today for just three hours, so I had to take that amount of short time to think up some evil things to do.

One of which. Shes due a new Mac Notebook to be picked up from the Apple store anyday now (her old one got damaged internally beyond repair, she spilt a full pint of milk all over the keyboard and now its Kaput, but the exterior is in mint condition) and luckily, our best mate bought one on Friday, the same model my girlfriend will be getting and the same model as the broken one. So I asked her (our mate) if I could lend all of the packaging, manuels, paper work, plugs, the Apple carry bag, the lot. So I started to wonder what I could do to the Mac. I couldn’t just put it in all the packaging without doing something to it first, and what do you know, I had a full tube of Super Glue. So I proceeded to glue the Mac shut, give it a little polish to give it that little bit more sparkle and placed it all in the correct packaging with everything else, the full works. It looked fresh from the store.

So, she rang me when she finished work to see how things were & all. And I told her that I got a call on our house phone from the Apple store in Newcastle saying her new Mac is ready for collection. And with me being a Gentleman :diablo: I said I’d went down to collect it on her behalf, plus I hadn’t much else to do and it’s a beautiful day outside. She was incredibly thankful (I WAS on a promise tonight, if you know what I mean. *wink-wink*)

So as it were she was very, very, very excited to get back home to get loose on her “new” Mac and the inevitable was about to happen…

…To cut the long story short. It was quite an experience, a lot of anger, hatred, abusive language and general displeasure was thrown in my general direction…Including the Mac and some of the contents…But it was funny and being the lovely lass she usually is, she seen the funny side of it…After about half an hour or so later. :diablo:

Was it rude of me to ask if my promise was still on offer tonight? She said something along the lines of, “Fek off, you limey wanka rectum hole booby face, pwik, fanny”…Or something.

Oh, and I tied her underwear (*Cough* “bedroom ones” *cough*) to the front door too! :diablo:

😮

You are a braver chap than i am!

True for the SH, untrue for F 16; it
has a lower drag then the Gripen

Care to provide a drag chart for the two aircrafts?

UUUMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

So, five years from the first sketches to full production.
Fifteen months from first sketches to first flight.
On time.
On budget.

I am quite sure that somewhere there´s some law forbiding such a sorry state of afairs!

😀

Well, has of today that particular criteria (360º IR night vision outside of the cockpit) cannot be met by any other aircraft… So…

why has Gripen NG the same weight as 1970s era F-16A/M2K that despite having 500kg lighter engine.

Because it has an AESA antena in the front office, an IRST, three diferent data links (TILDS, MIDS LVT and a Sat com), MAWS, internal ESM/ECM equipment, and a few other bits and bobs that a 70´s fighter didnt had…

There are at least two independent, albeit unofficial sources stating a bearing accuracy of <1° for the DASS ESM sub-systems, maybe they are wrong, but there are no other sources stating any data whatsoever. Thus far I have just seen Rafale fans throwing around with all kind of data like you have done it, with the explanation of “no interferometry”.

http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-4725196/Typhoon-arises-the-Eurofighter-Typhoon.html
http://eurofighter.airpower.at/sensorik-dass.htm

If i am not mistaken that information comes from the old Eurofighter DASS pdf, it was taken from the Selex site when it changed the name to “Praetorian”.

MICA offer at ranges > 50km the same agility than WVR missile like IRIS-T and Sidewinders.

At ranges »50 km the MICA is an hipersonic dart, its rocket engine long exausted, the TVC useless, so dont expect extreme agility at that kind of ranges.