I was told in 2002 by someone who insisted on secrecy that something had been designed with typhoon engines and innards but new fuselage….

I do think this was a UK plan B as part of FOAS and F35 replacement studies though….

Probably BAE Replica.

For climb, right, for acceleration, wrong.
Swing wing fighter always achieve a better acceleration compare to most contemporary generation even some of next.

Always? Well, not always.

There are not many “swing wing fighters” or even “swing wing strike fighters” to begin (SU-17/20/22, Mig-23/27, F-111, F-14 and Tornado GR1/4/FMK3). Almost all of them could be quite fast on their “home turf altitude”, but by no means they are/were the “Indisputed Speedy Gonzalez” of their age.
Any of the above mentioned would be hard pressed by a F-104, a BAC Lightning, a RA-5 Vigilante or a TSR-2, nevermind the Mig-25/31 (lets not even talk of the YF-12).
Hell, a Concorde can make a “Tonka” look like a snail.

When the wings are fully retracted the “typical” swing-wing fighter (whatever that his) will (in theory at least) have a very decent drag coefficient by comparison with its “fixed wings” companions. On the other hand the “swing mechanism” used on these aircrafts were fairly complex, heavy and they took space, so (again on theory) you could have a lighter fighter for the same size/thrust if the wings were “fixed”.

So there you have it, its all about compromises, if you want “accelaration” above anything else, the swing wing is not for you (try something “light” with a small wing and ungodly thrust).
The Tornado Fmk3 drivers can vouch for me 😀
(yes i know, that thing is awfully fast at low altitudes)

Cheers 🙂

Don’t know, or really care.

I just didn’t think that ‘LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL’ was warranted.

Well, i stand corrected, “LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL” wasnt warranted i admit.

i heared it too.if su-35bm win the race it will be a great help of sukhoi to speed up its project(in financial aspect)

No, the SU-35, the Eurofighter Typhoon and the F-16 are all out. The FAB and the Brasilian MOD have closed that door a long time ago.

Thanks for that clarification. Perhaps the Japanese are just addicted to buying US. Not so different from a smoker who announces that he has decided to give up the habit then 5 minutes later reaches for another cigarette… 🙂

More or less, the fact is that IF the proverbial Sh**t hits the fan the “cavalry to the rescue” force will be composed of US Navy Carriers, Marines and the USAF, not the Luftwaffe, the Royal Navy and the Foreign Legion… So its quite understandable that Japan maintains close ties with the Pentagon and the US Defense Industry.

Cheers

I don’t see how F/A-18 competes with Typhoon in the Japanese context. Are Boeing still relying on a predisposition to buy American or do they think they can win on price?

In the Japanese context i would think that the SHornet can compete rather well, its American, it has a developed tested and combat proven AESA Radar, and… its American. The “price” factor, you can forget it, they were more than willing to fork out the cash for the Raptor.
The layers and depth of the American/Japanese Alliance are enormous, i would be very surprised if the Typhoon his chosen

But no ITAR-free AAMs to make all that stuff useful… :rolleyes:

Its called the MBDA Meteor and the LFK IRIS T…