That goes for other in here as well.
I picked up on that F-15MLU contract. When the first “golden Eagle” contract was handed out, it was only for a small figure, for some ANG units.
Source: http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/f-15s-looking-for-the-aesa-edge-04044/Then it got increased in the last years. Now it contains all but 200 F-15C/D
I pointed out it has a direct link with how the F-35 program has evolved.
People didn’t like it; -how dare i come in here with such claims! -The F-35 program is doing just fine, in fact its doing better! Its at a all time best!Then i pointed out the A-10 also still are in service cause of the F-35 program hick-ups. But nah, lets blame the A-10 for stealing resources from the F-35 program.. it has nothing to do with F-35.
And people got furious calling it flame bait, Dragging F-35 into this.Funny.. why are US F-15 and A-10 used out from Turkey, and not F-35 then..?
haavarla
The F-35A was never marked to replace any version of the Eagle.
If you want to make a point about the F-35A related to this topic then the only one is something in the lines of “if the F-35A is so capable in the ATA mission then why is the USAF spending so much in airframes from the eighties (the contracts related to the “C/D” are pilling at such a great speed that building new airframes or acquiring F-35A´s for the ATA mission is starting to sound like a reasonable question) when they can simply move the Viper replacement to the right (the Vipers have younger airframes and are vastly cheaper to upgrade), two hundred airframes to the right more precisely and replace the Eagles first ?”. The answers could be severall, from “the F-35A is not capable in the ATA mission” (APA version), to “the Eagle has certain atributes that the F-35A doesnt have, namely a gigantic radar, high altitude performance, the capability to carry a great big load of AAM´s and the LO part of the equation is already covered by the Raptor” (thats my own, disputable, take) or “the F-35A was never meant to replace the Eagle, the end” (Bureaucratic version), or something else entirely.
But the F-35A was never meant to replace the Eagle.
Cheers
RAF Typhoons have, always had a 27 mm Mauser gun. They have ammo and they train with it. The “no gun” RAF Phoon fleet was a cost cutting measure that never went forward because it was found that not fitting the dam thing was more expensive.
And the LM “ATF” design, was done by Syd Mead under direct guidance by Lockheed, AFTER the original design (post faceted design) had been delivered to the USAF. The atual design was no delta canard… Thats a cross between “artistic” design and pure “disinformation”.
with an interesting pic on the cover
The original image has a Typhoon instead of a Flanker.
It appears Ramjet R-77 studies were resurrected as long ago as 2011 after a 15+ year hiatus.
Well, thats news!
You mean the grand French military that ran out of bombs and had to resort to using cement bombs?
Yes, they have used concrete bombs, in the places where an explosive one would certainly kill civilians. And you forgot to had the “PGM” bit, the French stuck Laser Guided kits on cement training rounds on purpose, not because they didnt had explosive ones. Just like the RAF, the USAF and severall other Western Air Forces have done. The IDF/AF uses them on a routine basis over Gaza.
No, the capabilities of the French is nothing to brag about. That is for sure.
Off course that the capabilities of the French Armed Forces are nothing to brag about, because every other nation with a population of roughly 65 million souls can conduct foreign interventions at the rate and capability that the French have been doing for decades, right?
And that choice is Rafale, unless you already have a capable air superiority fighter.
Dont forget the Dewoitine 520… If the only requirement is being French might has well go for the Dewoitine or even better a SPAD IV, they are vastly cheaper.
There´s nothing obvious in choosing a Rafale (or a Phoon) over the F-35A, you can indeed make a case for any of the twins but there´s nothing obvious on it.
how can F-15C be at the forefront to 2045 with the largest RCS next to Flanker ?
I suspect that the USAF is throwing an ungodly number of dollars into some very old airframes because of three points, a) it has a huge frontal real estate, its entirely possible that the evolved Eagles will field the most capable radar in the entire USAF fast jet fighter fleet, b) high altitude flight performance and c) large aam cargo capability.
Some of those figures on the inventory number like 150 Mig-29 about 200 Flanker , 130 Mig-31 etc would be interesting to here what member thinks about the inventory number.
The numbers are roughly correct, the massive slashing of active Sqn´s didnt just happened west of Warsaw.
In no particular order
Mirage G8
Mirage 4000 (Lovely Bird)
TSR2 (thats an obvious one)
IAI Lavi
F-16XL
F-16U
YF-23
Northrop-Dornier ND-102
North American NA-335
MBB Lampyridae
The Mirage 4000 would have been a superb aircraft aircraft. Mirage 4000N would have been a superb deep strike fighter & the 4000-5 a superb multi role fighter.
Nic
While i agree with you, the Adla would have bought five of them.
LRIP 9 to 10 cost reduction should be higher than LRIP 8-9 on account of a higher production rate. Things could change however as Lockheed may go to court since this was a unilateral contract award where Lockheed and the JPO did not agree on the price. They will deliver the aircraft at the cost but reserve the right to go to court and get a ruling in their favor to get extra payments.
I was absolutely stunned to see the Pentagon and the JPO to pull that one. Lets wait, if LM goes to Court its going to be an entertaining show… Hope that cool heads on both sides prevail.
lol what a lazy guy.
here’s something to help you
http://www.google.combut you seem like a guy who still wants to ask Jeeves
here’s another hint. engine is Chinese, can you guess which one lazy?
Can you provide one single proof that the WS15 has indeed been introduced into the J20? No?
Untill now we have seen every single J20 equiped with what everybody and their dog, (including every single major aerospace magazine) takes to be a variation of the AL31FN, the sole exception was one of the prototypes wich was equiped with whats look like a AL31 and a WS10 at the same time.
Now either Janes, AW, Key Aero, Flight Global, everybody in this forúm (with one exception), everybody at Sinodefense, etc, etc, etc, are wrong, or the chap who cant tell wich is wich between an HAL LCA and a Atlas Carver, or doesnt know whats an AMX or an Mitusbishi AAM-4 is wrong… Hmmmmmm, thats a dificult one…
Now if you do have some kind of proof that the engine in the J20 is indeed the WS15, show it, several of us who have been following the program will be extremely glad that the engine has been clearly identified, if you dont have any kind of proof, stop making a fool of yourself.
If anyone wants an interesting afternoon, just introduce either LCA or JF-17 as disappointing projects and see mass hysteria overtake the thread.
Give the man a beer, post of the month winner
Breda BA88
Supermarine Swift
Bristol 188
General Dynamics F111B
Convair F102 Delta Dagger
Stop trolling in the Chinese thread.
fact
FC-1 exports: 100 and another 100 to come. sure its all exported to one air force but far more than the below ones
Gripen: many countries but total, under 50. lease don’t count
Rafale: 66
super hornet: 24also FC-1 is being built for Azerbaijan and Sudan.
Gripen – 36 (Brasil) + 26 (South Africa) + 12 (Thailand) = 74 airframes
Rafale – 24 (Egypt) + 24 (Qatar) + 36 (India) = 84 airframes
There´s no confirmation of any JF17 sale to either Sudan or Azerbaijan
Well at least your numbers on the SH are correct.
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-37575599
Long discussed follow on Typhoon order for Saudi Arabia appears to be making some progress. Saudi aircraft purchases have seriously ramped up, the paper strength of the RSAF is impressive ( 86 F-15C/D, 154 F-15 S/SA delivered+ordered, 72 Typhoon already on order/delivered, 80 Tornado IDS).
A bit older article, claiming the same thing, a Saudi follow on order of 48 airframes.