Sintralol, The F-35 has more T&Rs than a Eurofighter 😉
If i am not mistaken that photo is from 2011…
The blasted thing is taking a bloody long time to mature…
SintraI never said that the UK has no been right to veto the sale of its own components, since this is the law and in reason of that its the right of the United Kingdom.
However I think it has been a disaster that Brazil that should be the rights to export the Gripen E / F to South America, and indeed had started this with Argentina, without any others options to exchange the components from UK to deal with Argentina.
Nevermind that if Brasil had went with any of the two other alternatives, the Super Hornet or the Dassault Rafale, this wouldnt even be a discussion because those two aircrafts are light years away of whatever budget the Argentina Air Force can muster to acquire and operate any of those airframes… Next Brasil makes an agreement to sell Gripens to Cuba and the UK blocks it… Oh wait…
Everyone in this topic has already understand your position, no one agrees with you, end of story, get over it.
SintraOh, my friends, do not feel troll (mig31bm)
I found that the ability Aegis combat system is easy to Torpedo or Ashm be launched from submarines (Klub-S, YJ-18, P-800) can through and beat down it, in addition to the weapons as Iskander-K, BM25 Musudan, DF-21D CJ-10 / YJ-100, P-800, BrahMos is completely impenetrable shield Aegis with their speed. Most of the radar warning, radar searching/scan, FCR is sufficient to detect and track them but only the reaction rate is a few seconds and distance detection is usually very close to the warship by sea-skimming capability of anti-ship missile. It is not enough to cause significant damage if the rocket attacks follow the majority
Aegis system is not completely integrated to ASW, Fleet carriers rely on ASW MH60 if located in areas that range P-3/8 can not be reached
ASW is another war, a very complex
French delete evidence US carrier was ‘sunk’ by sub in drill
http://rt.com/usa/238257-french-submarine-us-carrier/
Chinese Song-class sub surfaces near USS Kitty Hawk undetected
http://www.timawa.net/forum/index.php?topic=10032.5;wap2
Russian Submarine in Gulf of Mexico Raises Concernshttp://global.christianpost.com/news/russian-submarine-in-gulf-of-mexico-raises-concerns-80126/
http://www.naval-technology.com/news/newsrussian-nuclear-submarine-sails-in-gulf-of-mexico-undetectedThe ASBM as: DF-21D, R-27K, BM25, Persian Gulf (likely ASBM) at a speed too fast (almost the speed of Mach 3-10) and top-attack, so the defensive measures electronic like ESM, ECM, chaff is completely useless , however Aegis system can detect by radar range, but only if they were really falling into the orbit of the earth as it is similar to supersonic speeds Ashm fired from submarines, speed and handling aegis of the reaction rate, the interception of SM2ER, SM3 block IIB will be factors in determining whether they are protected the CG-47 class, DDG-51 class or aircraft carrier
a) Your english is even worse than mine, its almost impossible to understand your texts.
b) I doubt that Mercurius wants to “feel” a Troll, nevermind feeding one and neither Mig31 or Mercurius are Troll´s
c) Wikipedia, rt.com, Christianpost, etc, are not considered particulary good sources around here
D) I am entirely puzzled by your posts, you are predicting the likely outcome of engagements between an huge number of diferent types of weapons and an AEGIS equiped ship based on what? “Eyemeter”?
SintraThe Paveway IV just been used in anger by Phoons. Saudi ones!
ABU DHABI — Typhoon combat jets flown by the Royal Saudi Air Force have used Paveway IV precision-guided bombs to strike Islamic State terrorists, marking the first time the weapon has been launched in anger from the Eurofighter-built aircraft, according to gulf region sources.
The Raytheon-developed weapon was only recently cleared for service on Typhoon. The missile is fitted to Royal Air Force and Royal Saudi Air Force Typhoons, but only the gulf nation has deployed the jet against ISIS targets.
The strikes by the Saudis come little more than a year after the US State Department lifted a long-time block on the gulf state purchasing the weapon. No reason was ever given publicly on why export approval was denied.
Paveway IV was co-developed by the British and US arms of Raytheon.
Raytheon declined to comment.
So far, Saudi Arabia is the only known export customer for Paveway IV, although Oman may follow suit as it has also ordered the Eurofighter jet.
Saudi Arabia ordered 72 Typhoons in a deal with BAE Systems in 2007 and over half the aircraft have been delivered.
BAE is part of the Eurofighter consortium, which manages the industry effort to build the Typhoon. Airbus Defence & Space and Finmeccanica are the other partners.
The British operate Tornado jets over Iraq fitted with the advanced 500-pound Paveway IV and other precision weapons.
British Typhoons have not been deployed to the region as part of the coalition effort to degrade ISIS forces, predominantly because the aircraft is unable to use the MBDA Brimstone missile, which has become a key asset to attack fast moving targets with reduced risk of collateral damage due to the combination of high accuracy and a small warhead compared with precision-guided bombs.
The British government and its Typhoon partners Germany, Italy and Spain moved to resolve that problem this week, announcing at the IDEX show in Abu Dhabi a £72 million deal to integrate Brimstone on Typhoon by 2017.
British Typhoon pilots have been practicing using the Paveway IV weapon, though. The RAF recently took part in the Red Flag exercises in Nevada, where up to 20 of the bombs were dropped.
SintraIt’s funny that you bring those 2 events on the table because:
The first one probably triggered the creation of the new strong laws against corruption by the French state at the end of the 90ies
The second one is the results of the application of these anti-corruption laws : some nasty dudes in Pakistan didn’t get their bribe because of those laws and decided to kill the French engineers as a retaliation…
Kovy
I freely admit that i might be wrong, but i have this idea that till today a) no one in France was ever convicted for bribing an foreign official in any weapons deal, b) no defense company was ever fined by the French State by corruption charges related to any external weapon sales. Am i correct?
Cheers
SintraYes very true.
But Corruption is regularly tackled by justice in the US. How often does we hear about a congress man, an officer or an attache being jailed ? It’s not the same everywhere.
True on both accounts, but “corruption regularly tackled by justice” is not exactly an US “thing” only (on a side note, we´ve just thrown our own ex-prime minister into jail on corruption charges!).
Cheers
SintraThere is no scope for corruption in a Foreign Military Sales deal with the United States Government.
While the US Government follows the FCPA, US private companies that are contracted by the US Government in order to suply military kit through the FMS have been held in corruption probes and have been found guilty on a “not so irregular base”, both on the US and abroad. On top of my head (recently) i can remember “Smith and Wesson” and “Flir Inc” having a bit of a problem with FCPA. Here in Portugal, in 2006, we stuck five chaps in prison, including one american, about some Phalanx CIWS munitions (sold through FMS) and suport.
Kudos for the US Government about FCPA, but humans are, well… humans…
Cheers
SintraContract signed.
Congratulations :applause:
SintraAnd Textron is offering three versions of the Scorpion!
NG, Boeing and Textron are going into this with new aircraft’s!
SintraMe thinking that budget restrictions would plant the good old hawk in the favourite lot… And NG ditchs it… Got to send my Cristal ball to the mechanic…
Well, Djcross, got to give due credits, you were right.
What I really don’t get it is how this capability creep (because this new “red air” is a capability creep) goes with the talk of revising specifications in order to reduce costs!
Next year budget there will be provisions to add STVOl AND a 155mm gun to T/X… :angel:
I’ll get me hat
SintraYou are being disingenuous.
I have an historic of seven years in this forum of reporting the numbers for the F-35 in February (or in… March), go and read them, and after that ask yourself, “has this chap been disingenuous”?
The FY2016 costs are “maybe” a percent or two above what they estimated they were going to be, but they are still well under what the FY2015 jets were.
“Maybe”? Maybe?!
Lets just dig the numbers that were present in the 2011/2012/2013/2014 budgets for, lets say, 2016?
Four years ago, the “Fly Away Unit Cost” for a 2016 was going to be 89.164 million a piece… Right now the USAF expects to pay 114,5 million US$, thats a 22% increase. Now, fast forward more four years, 2019, is there any historical reason why such an increase in costs cant happen?
And if LM couldnt lower the costs from 2015 to 2016,while going from building 28 jets to 44 jets for the USAF, hell…
Question: Are the cost estimations done in Budget docs done in Current Year dollars or Then Year dollars?
Then Year dollars.
btw, While you reported that the costs rose a percent or two (FY2015 vs FY2016 estimates), did you miss that the FY2015 costs have dropped from what they were in the FY2015 docs (FY2015 Estimate vs Contract)?
I specificaly mentioned that fact.
The other good news for Lockheed Martin is that by comparison with the last year budget, the unit cost (all the variations, be that the “Fly Away Unit Cost”, APUC, “Weapon System Unit Cost”, “Program Unit Cost”, whatever) for each F-35A has gone up (again), for every single year with the notable exception of the 2015 “Fly Away Unit Cost”.
Cheers
SintraThe 2016 Pentagon budget just got released.
Lockheed Martin is one of the winners in this one.
Spudman already described the numbers of airframes, two more F-35C´s than was expected, and no more SH´s and Growler´s (lets see if the Congress agrees).
The other good news for Lockheed Martin is that by comparison with the last year budget, the unit cost (all the variations, be that the “Fly Away Unit Cost”, APUC, “Weapon System Unit Cost”, “Program Unit Cost”, whatever) for each F-35A has gone up (again), for every single year with the notable exception of the 2015 “Fly Away Unit Cost”.
The 80/85 million (in then) US$ URFC for a 2019 Dave, that Bogdan was predicting not long ago, just got a shot on his head, it has gone to 90,49 million US$ (the Fly Away Unit Cost for a 2019 Dave A, in then year´s US$ is 102,132 million).
I havent looked to the numbers for “B” and “C” (later).
But, on the overall, jolly good results for LM.
On complement to Spud links, the updated USAF doc´s:
http://www.saffm.hq.af.mil/budget/
F-35A numbers here
http://www.saffm.hq.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-150130-006.pdf
SintraAre there any recent upgrade on Su-24M2 and Tornado GR4?
Dont know on the Sukhoi, but the RAF Tornado fleet has been continuosly upgraded, the CUS-P upgrade was finished last year, and there are severall upgrades contracted to be delivered next year.
SintraThe USSR made a buffer zone of Eastern Europe, and released her without blood. US had occupied the entire planet and dictate its will. Now Europe “dancing to the American tune,” imposes sanctions to their own detriment. What will happen when US troops withdraw from Europe? I will say with confidence, ONET not go without blood.
By the way, do not confuse Russia and the USSR. Russia – a thousand years, Soviet Union – 70 years.[ATTACH=CONFIG]234994[/ATTACH]
Twenty one American military bases in Portugal?! The chap who made that chart was on alcohol.
There´s one, the Air Base at “Terceira” in the midle of the freaking Atlantic Ocean in the Azores… And the USAF is leaving it, the Azores government is going bananas, the last thing that the inhabitants of “Ilha Terceira” want is for the Americans to go away.
ps – Just noticed the “U.S Military Base” in Hong Kong, i was wrong the chap who made the chart couldnt be ONLY on Alcohol…
SintraSome time in 2013 he went from independent blogger to professional journalist. Now he writes for Janes.
Nicely done. Janes got there a very, very good writer.
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