why to buy a Gripen if you can buy different F-16s variants which can be upgraded? see Chile no need to buy Gripens just old F-16s and a few new ones and that is enough, face it most Gripen customers are political too, want to join NATO? buy Gripens; but Poland shows get more MiG-29s and a few new F-16s and you get almost the same, Rumania is the same.
If you want to face the T-50 threat you need F-35s at least or your own stealth fighter and that is what Japan wants to do.
The Gripen is seen as the second best option to the F-35 or F-22.
it means you want stealth not canards, the F-22 and F-35 show that
Gripen is second in WLO, if you want to pay for it. Thats all right with me.
If you want to fight T-50, i would get the meteor on a 4 gen fighter as LO as possible and a last gen IRST and good datalinks. the stated RCS isnt WLO, just LO for T-50. To be on the safe side, i would use the best possible tactics for my craft. Gripen NG and Rafale last gen fits that bill, probably Eurofighter as well. Dont forget you probably get more 4 gen fighters than 5 gen for the same bill.
F-16, if you want an earlier design with big RCS for the same price.
pitted vs a Gripen it is not, in terms of performance, with modern weapons and avionics such as HMS, radars, AIM-9Xs and new engines no way it is political, it only shows the Eurocanards are excessively expensive and just are not enough to beat the early vintage F-16s in markets and F-22 and T-50s in capability.
f-16 is not cheaper than gripen…but gripen is a true 4.gen 😉
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Saddly for deltas they bleed energy fast at low speeds and it is proven by the differences in their ITR and STRs, now does the Gripen have chances of beating the F-16 or MiG-29? yes it does but is not like many here imaging just a one side victory, if other countries continue buying F-16s and MiG-29 even when they are also offered Gripens shows well that.
so politics have no say in the matter?
That is not a cobra. is a banking recovery due to lack of efficient lateral stability
so it isnt high AoA? 😉
Ah but a detail you fail to analize, moving the CP or aerodyanmic center is not always beneficial, you either can create excessive pitch up stalling the wing and canards are to stall first limiting AoA, the Su-27 and F-22 can do the Cobra simply because their tailplanes are more efficient at high AoA and due to hysteresis that creates a down force, you do not need canards to do the cobra and most post stall maneouvres the F-22 does not use them and the SU-27 does not use them for the Cobra, in fact canards are less effective at really high AoA that is the reason the Su-37 and Su-35S still have tailplanes even having canards.
T-50 has already delete them and uses LEVCONs a much smart proposition than draggy canards
an old saab draken double delta can do cobras… without taleplanes..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqiDEcfSnXs
Att extremly high AoA canards are extremely effective….
as i know, Gripen has done 100 deg in tests without limits.
no?!
if the center of gravity is in the rear part of the wings it has a bigger moment arm to close coupled canard(or any form of canard). that is a fact.
if it was a stable platform it would have been the other way around
whaaatt, and i thought f-22 was a instable design 😉 with the center o gravity in the rear….
Well, jeez let me just dig out a picture of a production F-23 just for jackjack. The YF-23 (the prototype) was indeed considered very stealthy. That’s what everyone is getting at. Northrop knows very well what they are doing when it comes to stealth. If a slightly exposed fan surface was such a huge deal then they wouldn’t have designed the aircraft like that.
Radar waves are not going to bounce back off the fan blade directly in the same direction in the same direction that they came. You will have some scattering due to edge diffraction back in the direction out of the inlet, and maybe some due to specular reflection (judging by the geometry of the blades, this will be almost nothing), but the majority of the waves will be bounced around elsewhere (like the walls of the presumably RAM coated inlets). Also, fan blades can be RAM coated as well.
as it is a prototype….
all stealth features as for examble blockers, arent operational..
they would probably have a solution for a operational F-23…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACDGkNa77Rs
3:31~3:47
Gripen did 360 degrees turn within 16 or 17 seconds, which means approxi 21°/s in sustain.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJDn8DNfI-o
See 00:28 ~ 00:42
The Gripen back flip 90° then keeping the airframe to be reversed and falling then roll 180° in falling.
Completely an amazing unnamed maneuver.
16 sec have been seen in other display situations which indicate 22,5deg/s STR, counting 1.35 to 1.51= 16sec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSkmzjTsl1M
The MiG-29 will have a better sustained turn than the Gripen that is a fact.
a fact?!
any reference on that and what version?
what about the a ability to turn fast without slip or big AoA? isnt that the most efficient and the lesser energi bleed?
All three, this one, Tejas and F-35 is hi-winged and not so much blended wingbody as earlier modells like eurocanards(little more), and f-22(much more).
why hi-winged then? it should be less roll performance and less structural stealth than a smoother, “2-angle belly” blended wingbody.
Yes and no .
I don ‘t know if an Aesa radar can be of any use if you want to archive active cancellation , maybe …
If it is possible (?) , I still say that it is better to use another hardware like a dedicated EW suite , just to leave the radar to do its job .Cheers .
I think not,
the “hardware” are more and more software or digital, and therefore the analog frontend is lesser and lesser. its therefor easier to install flexiblities.
In a situation, a task should be made by any of the planes systems that are most capable for it.
In some cases that will be the radar due to different preformance. Sometimes a co-op is the best.
this is sensor fusion in its frontline, and cary around dedicated hardware, and not be able to use it in all aspects, is waist of a planes kilograms.
Wishfull thinking as usual … ;), its not really an issue because France has not the power (the right) to stop or even slow these negociations between EU and Mercosur. And don’t worry, in France, the military-industrial lobby is at least as powerfull as the agricultural one …
whatever…
it does not change anything in EU agri-politics or brazil agri-politics