http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19710003944_1971003944.pdf

If i am reading this correctly, actual static SL installed thrust for Valyrie’s engines was some 25% less than uninstalled thrust at same conditions. I also ran into a figure thrown around on the net for f100 engine in f16, dropping from 29.000 lbf to 22.000 static thrust when installed, but there is no source to back up that figure. that would be a 32% loss, if true.

Will keep searching…

I wouldn’t mind a physics lesson one bit. 🙂

The calculation is pretty okay, I see no big faults with it, but we are working with unknown values. net thrust might be 230 kn, but it might be 190 kn, if installed thrust is so notoriously hard to guess. Also, acceleration might not be quite linear. what if the engines are never run at 100% while the plane is under the brakes? maybe the brakes hold the plane while the engines are started and while the throttle is added, as every engine needs some seconds for full response. Then maybe they’re released while full AB thrust is still at 50% or 70% or whatever. I am not saying any of this is the case, but i am trying to illustrate it is also possible.

Furthermore – the whole calculaton didin’t take into account any headwind, if i am not mistaken. If anything, even if there is zero natural wind and the ship is going mere 20 knots, any plane taking off could count on at least some additional 30 km/h of take off speed. I really think that’s worst case scenario. More realistic minimal addition would be 40 km/h, I believe.

But then there is another thing. WHY even put a third take off position that is twice as long as the first two positions if the first two can offer mtow in 95% of the cases, even in unfavoring weather and tactical situations? I fear that may be unlikely. Therefore I believe the first two positions must be below mtow, or may only be able to reach mtow in extreme conditions, with an unusual amout of headwind.

Then there are take off videos of su-33. A very good deal of them offer similar numbers. 5.5 seconds from first two positions to being airborne and 7 seconds from the third position to being airborne. Now, if we assume full thrust is being used, which could be anything from 150, 200 or 230 kn., one should be able to calculate weight of the plane, since we know the other two variables – time and distance travelled. what sort of figures do you get out of those?

I tried checking the bases with fighters on GE but so far it’s proving to be a tough business as the word recognition butchered those base names and half the time I can’t even understand which base is supposed to be which.

I have a carrier related question masked into a physics question: If an object takes exactly 7 seconds to cross exactly 200 meters, its average acceleration will be around 2.5 meters per second squared. Am i right so far? And 2.5 m/s squared should mean the net force (after all the drag has been substracted) pushing the object is exactly 2.5 times bigger than its mass. Basically, a 10 ton object would achieve 2.5 m/s squared if net force pushing it was 25 kN. Is what I am saying still correct? So, a 30 ton object would need 75 kN of net thrust (not gross thrust).

There’s second part of this question to come but let’s stick to the physics and math first.

thank you, Berkut!

I know what follows is horrible translation, as i ran it through text recognition and google translate, but it’s best I can do right now:

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• •, and that most of the deceased went to the Bose progenitor.
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complicated in terms of the fate of reform: an integer x Pb transformations were
Hundreds of thousands of pilots, are you Yachi AERIAL x machines, hundreds of
military airfields. Moreover, this process of walking to the famous
Russian specifics when, without waiting for the end
one reform, beginning Ali another.
Heritage
From the Soviet air tional heritage of Russia went
aviation smi air armies, four separate armies
Defense, the Moscow Air Defense District. Since 1987, the conclusion to the territory
RSFSR auto iatsii from Mongolia and then from the
Warsaw Pact and the beginning of 1992 brought about 1 AVIATION
x (x helicopter) regiments and four squadrons (about 380 aircraft). In
1989, Russia began to shift from the Soviet air units
republics, and the first relocated 144th separate regiment
AEW from Lithuania.
As of mid-1990, the territory of the RSFSR and the course of Mr.
ilis 223 aircraft and helicopter floor ka and 117
individual squadrons. In particular, in any walk of x in 58% of aircraft
apparatus of the Soviet fighter aircraft, to 47%
fighter-bomber and military transport,
42% of long-distance, 33% Intelligence, 31% of front-line bomber
and 30% of the assault, and 65% and the anti-
52% of maritime intelligence. After the withdrawal in 1990-94. on
territory of the Russian aviation from former Warsaw Pact countries
CIS and the numbers have increased even more. Thus, the proportion of aircraft
range aviation has grown by 1994 to 76%. In the final
Russia finally sick of the AI ​​camping about 16,900 of 23,800 aircraft, which had in
aviation security agencies of the USSR (71%).
In Russia, were both military aviation academy, 14
of 17 year old x Military schools, 8 of the 14 engineering and aviatsianno-
technical schools, 12 of the 20 study centers of aviation
and centers of operational use. Also grew up with in the vast iysk
their spaces on hodilis 9 of 1 About Soviet aircraft design bureau,
49 of 55 aircraft factories, 35 and 59 h ARZ.
On January 1, 1992 the number of Russian air force was only
485,000 people (including 367,000 voennosluzhaschi x),
They had more than 11,000 aircraft and over 20,000 Letch Cove.
Reform of the length of 20 years
In the development of the Russian Air Force is divided into four stages:
– 1992-98. – Formation, formation and development in
structure inherited from the Soviet Air Force;
Prodo.l: tion. Beginning at << AttB >>, NgNg 6 ‘, 2011, 1,3,4’ 2012.
– 1998-2001. – Union Air Force and Air Defense in common
The Air Force;
– 2001-09 years. – The development of the Air Force in the new organizational
structure;
– 2009-present. – Go to the “basic vskuyu” structure, the inclusion
the Air Force a significant number of vehicles x letate flaxes
of naval aviation, and other X structures.
Decree of the President of BN Yeltsin “regarding the establishment of x
Forces of the Russian Federation “was signed on May 7, 1992, in their
was composed and the BBC. Following section on air group
USSR emerged a serious problem in many areas
BBC. Thus, based on the characteristics of operational
by building groups of the Armed Forces of the USSR, the majority
most combat-ready units and left outside
Code (for example, in Ukraine and Belarus). Moscow and
North-Caucasian military district of the central x steel border,
чтотребовалоусилитьихавиационнуюгруппировку
and improve infrastructure. First of all, it concerns
the second military district, where he turned
large-scale hostilities. By the end of 1994, the CVM
and Squaw were formed from scratch, two air
Army – 4 – I’m 16th.
Another major problem is that the withdrawal of
aircraft from Eastern Europe was disrupted structure
aircraft group as a whole. So, on the airport’s, arrangement
nnyh close to the borders of Russia, placed units and
range aviation afrontovoy-inland. But
Furthermore, many of redeployment piece were “in the number is
field, “something had to deal with their personnel and
aircraft. In many x with x luchaya violation occurred
integrity “of aviation body” when air units
Yes, the same one division affected in different states x
that made it difficult to manage them, and to ensure
all it is necessary.
Due to a change in foreign policy in the middle
– 1990s. was lost in the short term based zmozh ABILITY
airplanes the Russian style in Cuba, Vietnam,
Angola, as these countries have refused to renew the contract of
lease airports. X Number of flying vehicles and personal
SOS tava in power in Russia edomstv was clearly excessive, and
and x should decrease. However, quite often, the term
“A deep reform” meant the banal with abbreviated
Military units and served in her nomination
people “on the street.”
As of October 1, 1992 in the Air Force were: Long
Aircraft (DA), the Military Transport Aviation (VTA), six in zdushny
s Army, the Air Force four districts of central subordination.
In all there are 1750 units.
In 1994, disbanded two BA, who had gone to in the
Long-range aircraft, and its structure has been replaced by an army of di-
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The Su-35 is being tested, and the Yak-1 30 already in operation
Whife Su-35 was tested, the Yak-130 was operated
Vision. In the same year signed an agreement on the division of the aircraft and the modernization of the armament. In
Black Sea Fleet, and the Russian Federation moved to 163 from 337 in 2007 to resume flights of Tu-160 and Tu-95MS bombers over the North
aircraft. In the first four years of the reforms amount Arctic, Pacific and Atlantic oceans.
stvo parts BAF was reduced by 40%, DA 25%, BTA-January 1, 2009, the Russian Air Force were 72 Regiment (without
by 10%. Suffered most fighter aircraft, where accounting training), 14 air bases, air squadrons and 12 individual otsokratili
60% of the parts, as well as asthma, which disappeared altogether. series in which there were about 4,000 aircraft and 183,000 people
Number of Air Force personnel has decreased by almost half, and Bo-personnel. At the time, the Russian Air Force in the number of aircraft apevyh
aircraft by 25%. There have been significant reduction preparations yielded only the U.S. and China, and in combat potentsialuniya
flight schools at the airport and that the withdrawal of the United States only. Organizationally they included 5
units from the Russian borders. Army Air Force and Air Defense, 37th VA (YES), 61th VA (BTA), and the Moscow
In 1997, the number of Air Force was already 210,000 people, and the District Force and Air Defense Command reformed into spetsialk
January 1998 left 186,000 people, including about 10,000 n th destination (KSpN). In just about 1992-201 years. in Russia have reduced
Pilots at 5,000 airplanes. Falling and flying: from 962,000 hours in 1992, at least 196 aircraft and helicopter regiments sformido
254,000 in 1998, with an average annual flight Rowan fell just one – 184th TVAP (Engels) in the Tu-160.
up to 21 hours per pilot. By this time, the Defense Ministry announced the launch of a new
In 1998, when combining the Air Force and Air Defense decided disbanded, reform, in which were to cut 160 of 340
Vat all command (YES, BTA FA reserve and training cad-air units, abandon the structure of “air arrov)
. The union was accompanied by significant reduction mission-division-regiment “and move on to the scheme of” command-aviabaniyami,
and “major blow” was in the air defense forces: only for “. Axis provided that the end was about 201 in the Air Force ostako
for 1998 decreased 48 regiments. In the same year, the Air Force and netsya 2,000 combat aircraft and 600 helicopters.
Defense was eliminated 126,000 positions (from 318 000 to Soon “the process has begun • •. Jan. 1, 201 was formed on 4
192000). Frontal Aviation regiments were transferred to the two operational Air Force and Air Defense Command (based on the former Army
squadron staff, with the number of aircraft decreased by about the Air Force and Air Defense) Command YES, BTA and the operational and strategic
50%. Were massively withdrawn into reserve fighter fourth skoe Command Aerospace Defense. Began
generation MiG-29, Su-27 and MiG-31. reforming air units and in aero-
After completion of the merger Air Command and in 1999 were onnye base (AVB). In this case, aviation divisions and regiments obsformirovanydve
Air Army High-glavnokoman edinyalis aviatsianno-technical bases, individual badovaniya
37-I (range aviation) and 61th (Military Transport Taglioni communications and electronic support. Home
aviation). In addition, established five Army Air Forces and Air Defense *, the idea of ​​reform-focused under one command all
Moscow District Air Force and Air Defense, a number of individual cases. On Nov.-air and ground units, cut them kolirya
2002 Army Aviation (Hell), also has undergone considerable honors, and the number of administrative structures and personnel
Consequently cuts, was reassigned to the Chief-of command. Also, had to withdraw from service
ment BBC. prepared for combat aircraft (about 30% of the total).
According to foreign sources, beginning in 2005 with the formation of the In-air bases, mainly for non-pooled
becoming the Air Force consists of 79 aircraft and 15 helicopter regiments half as much as the individual regiments and squadrons, and not always odkov
Army aviation. In addition, another 22 regiments were in Nagoya, and the same kind of aircraft. Thus, the Su-27 could sosostav
naval aviation. In total there are 5,500 aircraft. By sedstvovat with bombers Su-24, and even with helicopters
As of 2007, the Air Force regiments of de-Mi-8 and Mi-24. All initially created more
sewed as compared to 1991 by 55%, combat aircraft, 65 ABW.
51% of military men by 62%, including the pilots on
59%. At the same time, the increase in military spending in Russia * SPO-places of deployment of their staffs are Rostov-on-Don, St. Petersburg,
sobstvovalo growth raid crews began purchasing new Khabarovsk, Yekaterinburg, Novosibirsk.
AWACS aircraft A-50 strategic bombers and Tu-160 are part of the 6950 th AVB
The A-50 AWACS aircraft and the Tu-160 strategic bombers are incfuded in 6950th base
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Soon, despite the fact that a number of air bases are not yet fully
formed, a new wave of reform: it was e-existing
and the newly formed IFA began to coalesce into a
large. In doing so, moved to air bases
new airfields and included in the group were there air
(AH). Obviously, the greatest ordeals endured by the
Ivanovo (A-50) and Ryazan (IL-78) Air Group, which
three had to change the structural affiliation, while
they finally were not included in the 6950 th ABW Command YES.
Today, there are three digits airbase. The first sets
the largest. For example, 7000-I AVB (Voronezh)
includes eight air groups, scattered away
1800 km. Each AH several squadrons and units of software.
Overall, this air base has 250 aircraft.
Airbase first class have in areas where land
forces need direct support
Aviation and the likelihood of engagement regarding
high. At bases of the second and third order structure and running
modest task. Thus, the base of the second category are comparable
with former regiment. Their composition is usually included on
Air Group One, two, sometimes.
All created Av B became part of the permanent combat readiness,
that increased requirements for serviceability of the fleet, and
as the level of training of flight personnel. Continues to improve
and funding. As a result, in 2011 the average annual
raid on one pilot was 90 hours in 2012, it is planned
increased to 130, and in the future, up to 200-220 hours. In
In 2011 the Air Force conducted more than 300 scientists at various levels.
At the end of about 201 was again addressed the issue of the transfer of Hell
back to the Army, as a result it will be translated in
subordinated to the commanders of strategic commands
(Western, Southern, Central, Eastern)
Replace former military districts. At the same time, the main
Staff and the Chief of the Air Force continue to be responsible for fighting
preparation of Hell.
In late January 2010, the Russian Air Force had joined aviation
and units, previously part of the Navy,
Space Forces, Army Radio chemical protection *. In this case,
was transferred several hundred AN – 2, An-12, An-26, An-30,
An – 72, Mi-8 and Mi-24. The main purpose of these activities-centralization
management of transport aircraft to more effectively
isnolzovaniya her. April 1, 2011 under the authority
Air Force aircraft passed and SRF.
As of mid-2012 in the Russian Air Force has 7
operational-strategic commands: long-range aviation,
BTA, Operational Strategic Command Aerospace
Defense (ASD), 1st Air Force and Air Defense Command (territory
IN the former Leningrad), 2nd (Siberian and
Transbaikal districts), third (Far IN), 4th
(North Caucasus and Ural IN IN). They consist of 15
AVB first and second class, 8 AVB Army Aviation, 2
training Av B. To date, about 25,000 of reduced
65,000 officer positions, the number of flight crew
reduced from 12,000 to 7,000. In 2012 it is planned to go on
of the Air Force to 170,000 people, of which about 40,000 –
officers. The number of military aviation schools reduced
to three: in Voronezh (non-flying Air Force training
specialties), Krasnodar (Summer Special)

Yaroslavl (air defense specialists). In 2008, the combined BBA
them. YA Gagarin VVIA them. N.E. Zhukovsky. Main nrichinoy
This, according to many, was not to optimize the structure,
and high cost of land in Moscow, which was located
Academy. Zhukovsky. Since the summer of 2011 began nerevod
Academy in Voronezh, where, after the merger with the Voronezh
Air Force Engineering University will be established
Military Science and Education Centre Air Force “Air Force Academy
them. Professor N.E. Zhukovsky and Gagarin • •. Series
former heads of academies called happening
“Folly and fall into the abyss.” In their view, the damage from the loss of
the scientific capacity of teachers and methodological
base will significantly exceed the benefits of the reform.
All combat training centers (Lipetsk, Ivanovo, Diaghilev
Savasleyka, Torzhok, Egorevsk) were combined in a single 4th Center
aviation training and conduct of military
tests (TsPAPiPVI) with headquarters in Lipetsk.
For two decades, there was a drastic reduction
the number of aircraft in the Armed Forces.
For example, nаркистребительнойавиацииуменьшилсяна79%
Special – 67%, Other-60% of all helicopters
types decreased by 76%. In this attack aircraft increased
quantity of 1, 5 times, due to the withdrawal of the territory
Many Russian air units.
At the beginning of 2012 as part of the Russian Air Force
there were more than 3,000 manned aircraft and helicopters:
16 Tu-160, 58 Tu-95MS, Tu-22M3 107, 260 Su-24, Su-25 200, 17
Su-34, MiG-29 255, 275 Su-27/30, 135 MiG-31, MiG-25RB 15, 65
Su-24MR/MP, 12, A-50, IL-78, 18, 15 IL-22, 400, L-39, 100, L-410,
8 Yak-130, 80, AN-12, AN-22 12, 170 AN-26, AN-2 32, 35, AN-72, 19
AN-124, 130, Il-76, An-70 2, 16, AN-24, AN-140 1, 7, IL-18, 29
Tu-134, Tu-15 154, 6 IL-62, 13 An-30, 550, Mi-8, Mi-300 24, 45
Mi-26, Mi-35 28, 26 Ka-50/52, 5 Ka-226, 1 G “Ansat-U • •.
Serious problem is the wear the fleet:
As of 2005, it accounted for more than 57%. 87% of
aircraft operated by extending
set of resources. In order to improve the situation in 1996 –
2006. one by one, were adopted Gasprogrammy weapons
but they remained just realized despair STI.
Thus, under the last of them in the army planned to noc-
The composition of the Russian Navy aviation
Name Aeoopnom Tipple
7050AvBMA Seveoomonsk IL-1-3B An-12 -26 IL-1B Tv-134 Ka-27L29
AG Kipelov fV-142MP
7052AvB Kaliningnan MA An-26 Antonov An-12 Tv-134
AG Don Ka-27 Ka-29
7055AvB MA Ostad! Evo An-26 Antonov An-72 · 12 An-24
7057 AvBMA Kacha An-26 Be-12 Tv-134 Ka-29 Ka-27, Mi-In
AG Gvaoneyskoe cv: 24 Cv-24MP
7060AvB MA Elizovo IL-3B An-12 Antonov An-26 Mi · In Be-12 Ka-27
IFA 7061 MA Mongohto Tv-142 tv-142MP Ka-27PS E · In
7062AvB Knevichi MA An-12 Antonov An-24 Antonov An-26, Il Mi-1VRT In Tv-134
AG Nikolaevka IL-3B Ka-27 IL-22 Mi · In
2790KIAP Sevenomonsk-3 CV-33 CV-25UTG
? EIA Kaspiysk Mi-In
She B59YU with the An – 26 IL-20 T-154T134UBL Ka-27/2V Mi-In
tavit 150 new aircraft and 156 new helicopters, and really
set 22 and 60, respectively.
But then the pace of supply began to grow. In 2007-09.
Russian armed forces received 64 new helicopters, and a 201 on the city
another 57 and 19 new aircraft. In 2011, it was delivered already
about hundreds of new and upgraded aircraft. Among them: 12
Su-25SM, Su-30M2 2, 5, Su-27SM, 6 Su-34, 4 Mi-26, 14 Mi-28N,
1 An-140-100, 4 Mi-35M, 17 Ka-52, Ka-226, 5, 5 ‘Ansat-U • •.
In 2011, a new program was nrinyata arms SAP-
2020, which is planned to allocate 19 trillion. rub. Its ultimate
goal is to increase the number of modern
Arms 1 About 70-80%. Assumed zakunit 600
planes and helicopters in 1124, among them 70 copies of T-50, 90
Su-35s, 50 MiG -35, 28 MiG-29K, 100 Su-34, Yak-65 on January 30, 1 G AN-124,
70 An-70, 40 IL-76MD-90A, 150 Mi-28N and Mi-28NM, 50 Mi-35M
150 kA – 52, 350 Mi-8 x different versions, 100 Ka-60, 30
“Ansat • •. According to experts, to re-equip the Russian
aviation to new types of aircraft to at least 2030, to annually
nroizvodit 40-60 140-150 aircraft and helicopters.
Russia is an active eksnorterom aircraft: in 1992 –
2011. foreign customers in 1950 supplied military aircraft
and dual-purpose (including 1350 new construction). Among them:
12 IL-76, IL-78, 6, 3 A-50EI, 16 MiG-29K fighters, 25 Su-24, Su-27, 126,
315 Su-30 fighters, 16 Yak-130, 16 Ka-28, Ka-31 14, 958 different Mi-8/17
modifications Mi-24/35 153, 15 Mi-26, Mi-34 9, 3 “Ansat
• •. Only in 2011, the Minister of eksnort delivered 70 aircraft
and 107 helicopters for a total of 5 billion USD.
At the same time in Russia in 2009-11. imported about one Israeli
<< Drones • • 1-View-150 and 4 – Searcher. According to
Stockholm lnternational Rease Research lnstitute (SIPRI) in
About 201, with Israel signed a contract for the licensed production
36 UAV Heron. Also in 2011-12. purchased in the Czech Republic 7
L-41-E20 OUVP in version << salon • •.
No Air Force uniform …
Russian naval aviation nreternela changes, like the Air Force. To
the beginning of 1995 the Russian fleet had two air divisions,
23 separate aviation (helicopter) nolkami, 8
individual squadrons, one aviagrupnoy. In their structure, the
particular, there were 63 Tu-22M2, 82 Tu-22M3, Tu-142 67, 45
IL – 38, 95 Ka-27, 128, Ka-25 and Mi-14, Ka-41 29. By 2002, in the battle
composition remained nearly 500 aircraft, were serviceable nrimerno
30%. Dramatically reduced plaque of naval aviation, which amounted
from 2 to 15 hours for the crew.
As part of the epic s << bazovskoy structure “in the Navy originally
formed March 1st Av B naval aviation. Then nosledoval
series of reorganizations. For example, 3 airbase handed over
Air Force as aviagrupn, disbanded the 444-th PPI at the airport
The island and its LAperedali in 859 th TC (with her to). From April 1
2011 began the transfer to the Air Force fleet of Tu-22M and
also a number of transport planes. As of
at the beginning of 2012, in the naval aviation and left 7 AVB
The 279th separate naval IAP.
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Heavy transport aircraft An-22 of 6955 th AVB
The An-22 heavy transport of the 6955th base
Aircraft fleet has about 300 aircraft: 22 Su-24 / MP
21 Su-33, 16 Tu-142 / 142MR, 4 Su – 25UTG, 16, IL-38, 7 Be-12, 95
Ka-27, Ka-1 on 29, 16 Mi-8, 11 AN-12, AN-6 24, 41 AN-26, AN-72 8,
5 Tu-134, Tu-154 2, 2, IL-18, IL-1 22, 1 IL – 20, four Tu-134UBL.
ASW aircraft Il-38 and Tu-142 have
only the Northern and Pacific fleets, on the Black Sea Fleet were 4
Be – 12, and the Baltic Fleet aircraft planets at all. In general,
Compared with the beginning of 1992 the PLA fleet decreased by 73%
(Aircraft by 70%, helicopters, 74%), and attack aircraft,
by 80%.
In the mid-1990s. the Air Force Airborne were 7 separate
Squadron equipped with AN-2 and Mi-8. They were stationed at
airfields: Ryazan, Tula (Myasnovo), Ulyanovsk (white key)
Krymsk, Pskov, Ivanovo (Yasuniha), Omsk (North). During the
all reforms and x nodchinili Command BTA.
In aviation, the Space Forces has also been a significant
reduction. Of The Allied x << “three regiments and 9 separate x
squadrons were only 4 squadrons. From 201 on, their neredali
subordinate to the Air Force. A similar fate befell the aircraft
Ракетныхвойскстратегического destination. Posleserii
cuts it left 18 separate squadrons, including one on
helicopter, which in April 2011, the Air Force reassigned.
In addition to the Ministry of Defense, in Russia and other aircraft have
security agencies: the FSB, the Interior Ministry, the Emergencies Ministry, the Federal Customs
Service.
Two years after the USSR rasnada Russian border
transformed into the Federal Border (FBS). In
its aviation also seen structural changes, including
elimination of some units and the creation of another’s.
For example, in Gelendzhik, Caspian, formed Mazdoke
New UAE and in Yoshkar-Ola, the squadron deployed on the basis of the 1 st
separate heavy zhely Transport Regiment (OTTAP).
Since 2004, the air force FPS placed under the FSB, which
already had its own squadron, created in 1999, during
Vnukovo (Tu-154, Mi-8, AN-72). Since 2005, the Air Force began FPS
delivery of Ka-226 (currently known about the four tires ma)
, And from 2007 – light aircraft SM-92T. Devel oped for the LRF
and a special modification of the Ka-32, Ka-32A7.
As of early 2012 was at the disposal of the Federal Security Service
130 LA, input x, the 11 United Group,
one and two OTTAP aviagrupn (Kaliningrad and Kyzyl).
Fleet has a solid and the Russian Interior Ministry. As of
at the beginning of 2012 of the Internal Troops aviation
in x 4 separate odili mixed regiment of special purpose
(OSAP OH) x 10 separate squadrons, which were
About 150 aircraft.
In addition, the Ministry of Internal Affairs has twenty separate squadrons
Specialty (JSC CH), which are closed by the territorial
nriznaku the Interior Ministry of the Federation and oblastnyeGUVD.
Pervyyiznihsozdanvnoyabre 1996. It is envisaged
formation is similar to x 5 units, including Khabarovsk,
Magadan, Arkhangelsk. In their structure, except for 50-60 aircraft and
Helicopters are also used in airships, balloons and UAVs.
Specially designed for the Interior Ministry patrol version of the Ka – 32 –
Ka-32A2. In 2011, the Centre was established special
Rapid Reaction Force and Aviation Affairs of Russia.
In total, the small x << aviation “has about 340 aircraft:
2 An-12, 37 AN-26, AN-30 1, 22 AN-72, AN-74 1, 12, Il-76, Tu-1 7 34
5 Tu-154, Yak-40 2, 4 SM-92T, 2 L-41 O and 7 Ka-27PS, 3 Ka-32
14 Ka-226, 1 Mi-2, 11 Mi-24, Mi-34 3, 178 Mi-8, Mi-26, 19,
2 << Ansat “AS.355 2 and 4 R-44.
In 2002, after the appropriate decision
The Russian government officially nristupila to perform
aviation duties of the Federal Customs
Service of Russia, although its formation was begun in
1992 At the beginning of 2012 in its composition was
11 helicopters Mi-8 and 2 Ka-32, which are used in seven
regional customs administration’s and two custom’s.
In 1994, in the Russian Emergency Situations Ministry formed a government
Unitary Enterprise, of which originally
includes 5 Il-76TD, two AN-74, one of the Yak-42 and IL-62. On
At the beginning of 2012 in aviation MES were already
60 LA: 20 aircraft (1 Il-62, Yak-42 2, 6, IL-76, two AN-74, 3
An-3T, 6 Be-200ES) and more than 40 helicopters (25 Mi-8, Mi-26, 7, 5
Ka-32, 3 In. May 1, 1 VC-117). For the MOE in 1994 developed
Fire modification Ka-32 Ka-32A 1. In the near future
planned to buy another 7 Be-200ES, and two An-148. This
those called Ica, primarily used in the aftermath of
natural disasters and catastrophes tehnogeinyh and
for the evacuation of Russian citizens from conflict zones.
Conflicts and incidents
Russian air force received a major battle of the n um in
a number of conflicts of modern times. In 1994-96. Russian
Air Force taking l and in the First Chechen War (see “AIV • •,
N9 5’95). By actively involved in fighting the Su-25,
The Su-24, Tu-22M3, Mi-8, Mi-24, the defense of the conflict area provided
MiG-29, Su-27 and A-50. It began with the conflict on the ground
concentrated 515 aircraft and 70 helicopters, the number of recent
soon increased to 84 and then to 105.
Available dudaevekogo Chechen government
in 1992. were 111 L-39, L-29 149 *, 3 MiG-17, 2UTI
MiG-15 from the Stavropol VVAULSH, Armavir
Kobita and UCA DOSAAF, and other aviation equipment in t.ch. some
Mi-8. Percentage serviceability etogoparka the end of 1994
was about 40%. At the service, there were about 50 pilots.
November 28-December 1, 1994 on the ground and Khankala

and 3 helicopters. The same fate befell six Tu-134, Tu-154 1,
3 Mi-8 and 6, An-2, stationed at the airport GroznyySeverny
. Besides, by that time had been shot down, at least
, 3 Chechen helicopter, one AN-2 and L-39. From 19 to
December 24 bombing destroyed the remaining
100 L-29 and L-39.
According to the author, the federal troops lost 6 aircraft
(5 Su-25 and Su-24 1) and 22 helicopters (6 Mi-24 and 16 Mi-8). At
This total flight time (including the BTA and TA) was 38,000 hours
Beginning in 1999, the Air Force rossiyski_e participated in
The second Chechen war. While actively used
The Su-25, Su-24, Su-24MR, An-30, Mi-8, Mi-24, less intense
MiG-25RB and Mi-26. Baptism of fire in the area of ​​conflict
received Ka – 50. As of September 1999, the grouping
Federal forces there were 68 helicopters (32
Mi-24, 26 Mi-8, Mi-2 9 and 8 MI-26). During the active phase
conflict, the Russian air force carried out more than 21,000 flights.
According to the author, for the years 1999-2011. Chechnya was in the sky on to lose
9 aircraft (7 Su-25 and two Su-24) and 67 helicopters (Mi-26, 3,
22 Mi-24, 41 Mi-8, another type could not be determined.)
The conflict also involved aircraft MVD, FSB,
FPS and even MES (Mi-26). In March 2001, in the conflict zone in the
An-22 was transferred 20 Mi-8 and Mi-24 helicopters from Gudauta and Vaziani where
they were taken in response to the Istanbul agreements of 1999
During the conflict also destroyed one of the Chechen th
An-2 and Yak-18. 4 more aircraft seized during cleaning.
Both wars, despite all their tragedy and violence, positive
impact on the development of aviation security services of Russia.
Crews were invaluable combat experience, the political leadership
had to pay very close attention to the
problems of the Armed Forces in general and aviation in particular.
Besides the two Chechen wars, aviation security agencies of the Russian Federation
suffered losses in other conflicts. So, in 1992, two Mi-26
shot down in the region of Nagorno-Karabakh. In 1992-93. in Abkhazia and
South Ossetia has been lost 3 Mi-8, one of the Su-27, Su-25,
Another Mi-24 was shot down in 2000 In 1997, Tajikistan was
shot down the Mi-8.
* According to other sources, 152, L-39 and L-94 29.
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Helicopter EC-145 aircraft EMERCOM during training (left). The Ka-226 aircraft of the Interior Ministry passes the acceptance tests
The EC-145 heficopter of the Ministry of Emergency Situations of Russia during training operations (/ eft). The Ka-226 helicopter of the Ministry of / nternal Affairs of Russia
In August 2008, the Russian Air Force participated in the armed-L-39, MiG -29, Su-25, Su-35, Tu-142MZ, Yak-130, Mi-28 and Ka-60.
zhennam conflict in South Ossetia. For the analysis of the effectiveness of its 8.5 months in 2012 lost another 2 Mi-8, as well as one
application so far has been on the pages of the press, it is very An-30, MiG-29, Su-24, Su-27UB, Su-30MK2, Ka-52 and Mi-35.
many questions remain. According to official Russian data thus obschieneboevye loss in 20 years were
nym, lost about 5 machines: one Tu-22M3R and three Su-25 zaschi-600 aircraft.
Hoist a downed Georgian air defense, and one Mi-8 crashed
landing. Independent experts have called other numbers
For example, 6 Su-25 and Tu-one 22M3R or 4 Su-25, Su-24 two and one
Tu-22M3R. Georgia has its own truth: first, her representatives said
about 21 downed Russian plane and three helicopters
then reduced the number of his victories to 14 aircraft.
In the late 1990’s. Russian Air Force began to participate resonance
international incident. January 15, 1998 a pair of Su-27 from
689-th GIAP (airfield Nivenskoye) for the first time in the post
space forced to board the intruder air
border. The Kaliningrad airport Hrabrava
was put L-29 with Estonian recording, which was piloted
British pilots, flying from Kaunas to Gdansk.
In 2005, the offender has already become the Russian Su-27. Its pilot
ejected due to a technical malfunction of the machine,
fell on the territory of Lithuania during the flight to Kaliningrad.
Since 2004, the Russian Air Force was close to privpekatsya
teachings, both domestic and international. In some
of them (for example, West 2009, Autumn 2009, Union Shield-2011)
with more than 100 aircraft.
Russia is an active participant in peacekeeping programs
UN. Its aviation units (basically, it
troops on the Mi-8 and Mi-24) became participants of a number of missions,
Tues h in Cambodia (1991-94.), South Ossetia (1992)
in Bosnia and Herzegovina (1992-03 gg.), Abkhazia (since 1994), in
Angola (1995 – 99.), Tajikistan (1997-99.) In Sierra Leone
(2000 – 05.), Southern Sudan (2006-12 gg.). As aviation
Russia is a CSTO peacekeeping force formed
In 2007, There were among peacekeepers and no losses.
So, on May 5, 1993 in Cambodia was hit Mi-8, the crew performed Neal
emergency landing.
The share of aviation security services of Russia had a significant
number of non-combat losses. In 1992-95. Only Air Force
lost 114 aircraft. As reported in the Federal
target program “Air safety
aircraft of the Russian state aviation
Federation … • •, for the years 1995-2008. loss of state aviation
amounted to 395 aircraft. In 2009-11. were added
another 19 planes and 10 helicopters: 5 Su-24, Su-27, 4, 3
MiG-31 and two IL-76, 3 Mi-8, Mi-24, Ka-27 two, one AN – 22,
Il-76TD from the central airbase Russian Emergencies Ministry
The Il-76TD of Central AFB of the Ministry of Emergency Situations of Russia
Findings
Russia got the main body of aviation security services
USSR, several times more than the total “Inheritance”
other post-Soviet countries. Over the years,
result of numerous cuts and reform
fleet has decreased by more than 5 times. The purpose of change
considered to optimize the size and structure, but
still many military experts do not fully understand the ongoing
reform and doubt the effectiveness of com-
sheysya system.
However, aviation security agencies of the Russian Federation is
best position in comparison with other post-Soviet
countries. Especially positive change became noticeable in
Recently, when there are significant purchases
aircraft and flight crew salaries rose significantly
. Continue to operate state programs
Further development of aviation. They are supported
significant financial resources, which allows
talk about the high probability of their implementation.

PLAN has allegedly received its first Zubr from Ukraine. I guess they will find a place for it but it still seems to me that whole deal is way less useful now than it seemed 10 years ago. It certainly took long enough to get to fruition, since the signing.

I guess the Taiwan scenario (or any other island in china’s vicinty) could still benefit from such a craft, but overall it is just a drop in a bucket of PLAN’s capability and future needs.

It seems that more and more planes are getting R********* serials painted on their tails, not only new builds and modernized planes but repainted planes as well. How realistic would be to start a database and collecting images of all planes with different serials?