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  • in reply to: Augusta Westland tries to block the UK AH64E #2216337
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    There are some key thing to take in here

    1) the army want new air-frames this is down to the fact that like the wildcats the new air-frames need to be navalized unlike WAH or the Boeing AH-E at this time
    2) the army want to keep the Engines they use now as they are more powerful than those on AH-E and and when at sea its the same engine as on the Navys Merlins
    3) there is a lot of kit on the UK AH fleet that will need to fitted to any new type
    4) AW have done a great job of keeping the UK AH fleet at the top of it game over 10 year of high tempo war and fact that the WAH has been operating from Carriers for some time is a big hats off to them and the AAC

    so any new type AH-64E or other type will cost more than a US AH-64E because like the WAH and Boeing 64D’s most major parts will be diffierent

    in reply to: who should win Poland's helicopter competition? #2221907
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    Why are Airbus offering EC725 when super puma is a better size for this joint airforce – navy contract and cheaper

    in reply to: How would you re-build the Argentinian military aviation? #2223357
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    and a few more parts

    On 26 July 2011, Embraer announced its selection of BAE Systems to provide hardware, embedded software, system design and integration support of the flight control electronics. BAE will perform software, hardware, and system design and support integration of the flight control electronics on the aircraft.[44] On 3 April 2012, BAE Systems announced it had been chosen to provide active side sticks as part of the overall cockpit controls.[45

    On 4 May 2012, Thales Group has announced that it has been awarded a contract to provide Inertial Navigation System (INS) and the GPS of the KC-390. The aircraft will be equipped with Thales HPIRS (High Performance Inertial Reference System)

    in reply to: How would you re-build the Argentinian military aviation? #2223426
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    Before ordering Gripen Brazil knew the UK would not allow export of British components to Argentina. Argentina knew the UK would not allow export of British components to Argentina. Why should Brazil cancel the Brazil contract?

    I imagine KC-390 does not contain British components unless Argentina thought it would never order any for its own use.

    KC-390 has chobham refuelling pods as I understand

    in reply to: How would you re-build the Argentinian military aviation? #2223885
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    They’re not going to buy enough to make an assembly line worthwhile. It’d put the price up, & as I keep saying, the FAA is short of money. Unless the government greatly increases its budget, it can’t afford the aircraft straight off the shelf, let alone after putting the price up by having FMA assemble them in Cordoba.

    Sorry Swerve I have not been clear in my last few replies I was coming at the problem from a government point of view and in the context of how I would rebuild Argentine military aviation and to this end the end of 2014 would have seen the changes I high lighted in June 2013 page 4 of this thread concerning training mostly complete. The navy would have lost its fast jet fleet without replacement and 18 Mirage F-1’s would now be coming on line to replace the Mirage 111/5’s fleet the 2020 plan would be the start date for the replacement of the A-4 and F-1 fleets by 2028 with 40 or more airframes of one type with the A-4’s going first. the assembly line would be an extra cost yes but also a foot hold in future plans

    in reply to: How would you re-build the Argentinian military aviation? #2224198
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    This is just the way I see it Argentina at this time Can’t and wont get Gripen that leaves them 2 maybe 3 options JF-17 which for me at this time is in the lead, FA/50 a good cheap Western option and on the far-far outside Tejas MK2. For me they need to think long term so an assemble line is the way forward

    in reply to: How would you re-build the Argentinian military aviation? #2224322
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    What is the motivation here?

    Firstly they can buy the airframe engine kits in and put them together in house secondly they have a joint works agreement with Brazil who are working on a new cockpit layout for Gripen all of this could give them something close to what they want / need

    in reply to: How would you re-build the Argentinian military aviation? #2224903
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    except Brazil has their own aerospace industry, they have experience designing and building their own military jets, so its safe to say they are not dependent on existing production lines to procure aircraft, they can open up their own manufacturing line and produce the fighter jet of their choosing

    Still costs money a lot of money for a limited run of airframes I feel there best bet is still JF-17 with an in house avionics and weapons fit designed along side Brazil

    in reply to: MiG-21 upgrades versus F-5 upgrades #2226155
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    Kenyan F-5

    in reply to: Pubs Frequented by RAF Pilots in WW2 #915158
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    The Kings Head and Woolpack Pubs in North Weald Essex of course the Woolpack was Bombed in the Battle of Briton

    in reply to: Little bit of fun if your up for it. #2024943
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    OK I will try again

    3 Absalon class multi-role Frigates. Fitted with type 997 radar, weapons fit phase 1 across the class will be one 4.5 inch gun taken from the Type 21’s , two DS30 30mm’s taken from the Castle & Peacock Classes , two 20mm cannons taken from the Type 21’s , remove the Stanflex system and fit 14 Mk 41 VLS’s and have room for 8 Harpoon’s cost $930 million

    6 Oaxaca class 86m OPV’s fitted with Scanter 4100 radar weapons fit one 76mm two MSI Defence Seahawk mounted 20mm cannons wired for SeaRam system Cost $280 million

    2 Makassar Landing platform dock fitted with Scanter 4100 radar, link16 and sat coms weapon fit one 76mm taken from Peacock class four MSI Defence Seahawk mounted 20mm cannons , connons taken from Type 21’s wired for SeaRam Cost $110 million
    Upgrade the 8 Lynx’s $ 120 million

    Buy 6 Super Puma $ 120 million to help with movement of troops and kit from ship to shore

    15 Scan Eagle systems $48 million for the marines a unit to be set up and able to operate this system from land or from all classes of ship

    6 SeaRam systems to be fitted to Oaxaca & Makassar classes if on foreign deployment $150 million

    Total cost naval spending $1.75 billion

    Upgrade the F/A-18’s $300 million

    Upgrade the 8 Pumas to HC2 $140 million look into folding rotor head so they could operate from Makassar or Absalon classes if pushed

    Buy 14 FA-50’s $450 million to replace the Hawk T1’s

    Upgrade the 4 P-3s $80 million

    Buy a forth C-130 of the same model as the 3 in service and upgrade all 4 to the same standard and able to A2A refuel with wing pods $100 million

    in reply to: Little bit of fun if your up for it. #2024991
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    Stan hdy What weapons fit do the Type 21’s have in this game? is it as taken on or have they seen any refit from 93 something like the Pakistan Navy

    in reply to: Little bit of fun if your up for it. #2025011
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    Program Acquisition Plan: The Naval Material Command (NMC), in cooperation with a number of foreign designers, initiated a pre-feasibility study for the two Flexible Support Ships authorized under Defense Agreement 2000-2004. An integrated part of the study was the derivative design for the Patrol Ship variants.

    Feasibility studies for the program, involving Direction Constructions des Navales International (DCNI) (now Armaris) and BAE Systems, were completed by the end of 1999. Three Danish shipyards (Oerskov Steel Shipyard, Odense Steel Shipyard (Lindoe Yard), and Danyard Aalborg Shipyard) were selected to submit detailed designs and prices by May 2001. Danyard Aalborg Shipyard declined to bid on this program. Tenders were returned in late June 2001, however, both were above the set ceiling price of US$110M (hull, mechanical, and electrical systems only).

    On 03 August 2001, the NMC cancelled the tender activity and entered into parallel negotiations with Oerskov and Odense yards. Several meetings were held to clarify the specifications, and to mitigate areas of risk and identify cost savings in order to reduce the overall price. On 15 October 2001, as a result of these negotiations, Odense Steel Shipyard was awarded a US$110M contract for the detailed design and construction of the two ships. First steel was cut for Absalon on 30 April 2003, launched on 25 February 2004 and accepted by the Royal Danish Navy (RDN) on 19 October 2004. The second unit, Esbern Snare, was launched on 21 June 2004 and accepted by the RDN on 18 April 2005.

    An additional US$256M was authorized to complete the construction and integrate both units of the class, allowing a total cost of US$183M per unit. The US$183M does not include the containerized STANFLEX systems, which are already in stock or funded through a separate budget.

    http://www.amiinter.com/samples/denmark/DA6001.html

    The Danish Iver Huitfeldt class, which costs as little as $333 million per ship (including sensors and weapons!)
    http://www.navalreview.ca/wp-content/uploads/public/vol8num4/vol8num4art6.pdf+

    The Danes claim Nils Juel and its sister ships were built for US $325 million apiece — an impressive accomplishment for a ship displacing more than 6,600 tons, fitted with a sophisticated combat and communications suite, armed with Standard, Evolved Sea Sparrow and Harpoon missiles, 76mm and 35mm guns, torpedoes and a helicopter, able to cut the waters at 30 knots and travel more than 9,000 nautical miles without refueling.
    http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?159275-Iver-Huitfeldt-class-Frigate&p=7465389&viewfull=1#post7465389

    he Navy should purchase any of the cheaper, more versatile, more survivable, LCS alternatives available on the world market:

    Denmark’s Iver Huitfeldt class frigate is twice the size of the LCS, has twice the range, orders of magnitude more firepower, and at a price of $333 million before weapons and costs about $450 million less than an LCS.21 Crucially, it drafts only three feet deeper than the LCS.
    http://www.ciponline.org/research/html/littoral-combat-ship

    The Danish frigate displaces twice that which an LCS does (6,600 tons versus 3,300 tons), but costs only $332M per ship excluding weapons. Even if one assumes that the weapons will double the cost, the Huitfeldts’ pricetag remains about the same as the DOD estimate for the LCS.
    http://warontherocks.com/2013/08/getting-our-moneys-worth-lcs-vs-iver-huitfeldt-class/

    631 miljoen euro voor de drie schepen [€631 million for 3]
    http://marineschepen.nl/schepen/iver-huitfeldt.html

    so is the price of 183 million dollars for a ship with the radar and sensors fitted and no weapons or are fixed gun and cannons fitted in the price

    in reply to: Little bit of fun if your up for it. #2025052
    Tempest414
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    Yes, but at that price the ships are incomplete. All the Stanflex modules are paid for separately, not allocated to the budgets for specific ships, & IIRC some other equipment is also budgeted for separately.

    In order to get a working ship, you’d need to spend a lot more.

    Ok chaps can you help me out here how much of the ship do get for the money say 225 million

    in reply to: Little bit of fun if your up for it. #2025064
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    You can’t get 4 Absalons for that price – two, at most.

    these ship are reported as costing $225 to $260 million dollars so I am sorry 900 million to to 1.04 billion for 4 ship its the 4 engine Iver Huitfeldt-class ships that cost 335 million each 80% same hull different fit out

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