Mr Magoo, you’ve done it again 😀 😀 😀
Ollie, don’t you know that this Staggerwing has WWII history in the UK, so that’s why it should not leave UK. Never mind fancy military paint scheme on something like a Mustang/Thunderbolt/Spitfire, etc. Most of these machines never saw active military service during WWII. They are just painted to look like the ones that did.
That is why I can not understand this comment ‘You can hardy miss the Staggerwing. What with bein bright yellow amongst a load of naval machines’ Am I being thick (or icelandic, who’s first language is not english) or are you belittling that machine for being just what it should be, in comparison with some machines that are not what they should be?
This machine has a very important story to tell. All the second line aircraft flying during the war, that get very little recognition. Accept it for what it is. It is a very important WWII relic flying in the UK
Among the best pictures posted here EVER 😀 Thank you very much for sharing.
Indeed not Galdri, and I’m sure the beancounters hate it too, Galdri what equipment do you fly? is it the 752 for icelandair? and any idea how much a routine go-around costs your airline?
True, the beancounters do not like go-arounds either, they might actually like them even less than the pilots! 😮 :diablo: I’m on the B737 with Air Atlanta Icelandic at the moment, but for how long is open to debate, as the airline has announced it’s plans to retire them all before next october. However, they seem to be getting rid of them a lot faster than initially planned 😮
As for the question about the costs of go-arounds, I’ve to admit, that I’ve never seen such a figure. If we are only talking about a go-around that would resault in a traffic pattern and a landing at the original destination, I do’nt think the cost would be too great. On the 73 only about, say, 1000kg of fuel, plus the extra, say, 10 min flying time (depending on location of course).
I thought it was pretty cool 🙂
The crew probably didn’t think it was that cool 😉 If you had acces to the vicerecorder of that 74 at the time of the go-around, I sure you would hear something like ‘ahhh bl++dy’ell, here we go!’ 😀 A go-around is something you do not need after a long flight!
I think you are correct there David. I remember seeing pictures of it flying. It was bought as a basket case in the US and restored in Spain, if the old sells are working properly. It is maybe not more than a year since it first flew.
I hit the books and found the following from the book Piper Cubs by Peter M. Bowers.
The NE-1 was the Navy designation of J3-C-65 Cubs, N was for trainer and E was for Piper. Taken from existing Piper stocks at the outbreak of war. 230 delivered.
The HE-1 was the first naval designation of the Civilan J-5C converted for ambulance duties . H stood for Hospital and E for Piper. In 1943, the designation was changed to AE-1, as the new helecopters got the prefix H. A stood for Ambulance. According to this book, the aircraft could carry one standard navy stretcher and one pilot. (No mention of an attendant/Nurse for the patient) The patient was oriented head forward in the cabin, and slid forward into the original cabin. So, according to that, there should not have been a significant aft movement of the C/G, with basically only the legs of the patient sticking aft of the normal cabin area.
I do wonder, though, what the extra weight in the rear fuselage would do to the CofG.
Move it aft? :rolleyes:
Love those aircraft.
First propjet (G-ARIR) I ever flew in. (The only airliner I flew in before that was a Viking 😮 )
Moggy
You are an old man Moggy, and it shows 😉 😮 😀 😀
The more I think about it, this makes no sense at all. Someone is winding us up 😉
Now, how is the real gs001? Is it rweaver again? 😉
Now whats going to be her first airshow appearance?
Will it be at Legends??
I’ll get my coat 😀 😀
It’s probably due to very high negative G experienced after the tail was clipped off by the bomb (and the bomb making a huge upwards force on the tail- which would translate into high negative G)
I agree with you Damien.
If you do not know the principles, stop it. Otherwise someone might get hurt in a bad way. This ‘design’ lacks everthing we have learned in the past 100 years or so.
I might get banned for saying this, but gs001, get a live! If you continue with this ‘design’ work of yours, your live will be very short indeed! 😮
If you still want to design something yourself, and fly it, then I think your first stop should be a place like this:
http://www.aircraftdesigns.com/books.html
There you can buy some book, or another, covering everything you need to know about aircraft design and flight testing.
If you like to have a look at at the thinking behind the design of an aircraft (a jet) you can look here:
Looks like it has had an encounter with the ugly tree. 😀
I would be very concerned about the directional stability, for starters, as there does not seem to be any kind of Fin/Rudder incorporated in the ‘design’.
There does not appear to be any provision for roll control, at least not on the wings. Maybe the elevators on the canard could be made differential to provide somesort of roll control, however limited that would be.
All in all, I would not try to fly this ‘thing’ :rolleyes:
Planes and parachutes dont mix…people die.
Exactly my point. But the sad part of it all is that we have people on both sides that don’t think that applies 😮 😡 😡