One of the advantages of mounting the engine upside down is the ability to have a cannon firing through the spinner. I doubt if that is the real reason though.
It might have something to do with getting the thrust line closer to the C/G, but I wouldn’t know.
The Mk. III was a non-starter, only one built. I’m sure Mark12 was talking about the Mk. VIII
Janie,
In the link BlueRobin attached, there is this, among other things,
Definition of a Serious Incident …………………………..
– System failures, weather phenomena, operation outside the approved flight envelope or other occurrences which could have caused difficulties controlling the aircraft.
I would imagine that this is the part that John C is reffering to.
If a para center is opened up at Duxford, I can see some faces being made in the cockpits of untold jets in the holding stack at nearby Stansted ๐
Having a parachutist whistling past you window while you are quietly minding you own buisness in the hold, is something I can do without!
Luuuvvvely ๐
Hope Jules figures out how to post more. This is just fantastic ๐ ๐
From memory, this was a US attempt to make an escort fighter out of the Spitfire, dated early 1943. With the drop tanks and a big fuel tank behind the pilot, it had the range to fly to Berlin and back. Only three were ever modified (Again from memory, don’t have the references at hand). As someone mentioned earlier, they were flown across the pond and ended up at Supermarine’s. There it was found that in order to fit the rear-fuselage fuel tank, some important structural members had been weakened. This idea was scrapped.
Supermarine did, however, modify a Mk IX themselfs, and Jeffery Quill flew it on endurance tests that proved it to be useful as an escort fighter. IIRC, it was in 1944, and Mustangs were available in sufficent numbers and the idea was dropped.
I was under the impression though, and I’m probably wrong, that the Mossie was too fast to be caught by most contemporary german piston engined fighters?
Well, yes and no. At high altitude nothing could catch the Mossie in a tailchase exept the He 219 and the Me262. I think they needed to be above ca. 25000 feet to be almost immune. At low altitude the Mossie was not doing to well against the likes of Fw190.
Looks more like a Lockheed Ventura or Harpoon to me :confused:
Just consulted Bomber Command Losses vol 7 – OTU Losses:
Crew was P/O AF Jefferys, Sgt JD Shiels, SGT RT Bowtell, and Sgt RAW Keeling.
Could Jefferys be the Jeff you are looking for?Flood
The more I think about it, the less likely I find it. The Hampden flight to Iceland was a ‘communication’ flight, presumably with mail and/or spares for 98 squadron that had arrived at Kaldaรฐarnes a week earlier. Flt Lt Jeff would presumably have been an instructor with 16 OTU, as sending a trainee on such a mission would not have been very wise ๐ฎ
When an aircraft brakes up during instrument exercises it is USUALLY due to loss of contol. Somehow, I find it hard to believe that a member of a training unit, presumably an instructor, that is trusted enough to make a flight to Iceland, looses control on a normal instrument exercise. Something is amiss here!
Can someone tell me if ‘Jeff’ would have been used as a surname in the UK at the time?
Or even more to the point, where would I find records of personel on charge with 16 OTU at the time? I know I could probably go to PRO, but I’m a bit challanged by the distances involved ๐ฎ
Great news ๐ Another Hurricane flying, and a lovely one to ๐
There is, however, one thing I would like to ask all the knowledgeble guys on here. Isn’t it a bit strange to advertise the first flight before hand? If I had a multi million aircraft ready for it’s first flight, I would treat it like homocide! Not a word to anyone, just go and fly the aircraft with an empty airfield. If things got a bit hot, you wouldn’t have to worry about all the spectators.
Well, this is the best match I’ve got yet.
Jeff could very well be short for Jefferys. The rank is however a bit of a problem. This ‘Jeff’ is said to be a Flight Lieutenant, and Pilot Officer is two ranks lower. This information is however taken from the ORB of 98 squadron which was based at Kaldaรฐarnes where they landed. As ‘Jeff’ was not part of that unit, and only stopped for a couple of days, it is possible that the rank, and real name of the guy came adrift. What do you think?
Thank you very much for that Flood. Just the information I needed. I knew you guys wouldn’t let me down. ๐ ๐ ๐
Now for F/Lt Jeff. Does anyone have a lead on him?
Sanctimonious as ever Melvyn.
Well, english is not my first language, not my second, but my third. Call me a stupid, but I had to look that one up ๐ ๐
Anyway, I’m with Melvyn on this one. This is a standard forum joke. Will this or that be at Legends? MarkG, you have been here long enough to know that. It is a joke, nothing else. Please do not go down the personal insault route if you beg to differ.
Melvyn is, himself, restoring a beautiful aircraft, and has had all sorts of insaults hurled at him when showing pictures of his beautiful workmanship here on the forums, if you don’t believe me go the GA. Thing is, he takes it just like it is meant, as a joke. I’ve had plenty of jokes like that with my project, and it IS a joke.
No one is trying to belittle what this man has done. It is, indeed, a great job.
Humour by-pass
Moggy
Have to remember that one ๐ ๐ ๐
Not bad, Not bad at all ๐ ๐ They can come and work for me when they are finished. I’ve got some sheet metal to be done ๐ฎ ๐