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  • in reply to: Compare GE F110 to AL-31 #2530542
    MKopack
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    Of course the question is “why hasn’t Iran purchased Russian Flankers”??? Which, are clearly more capable and would be brand new……….:rolleyes:

    Exactly. Realistically, take a look at all of the fighter orders around the world for the past 5 years – if the Flanker that that wonderful and inexpensive a ‘super fighter’ – why doesn’t anyone (who also has a choice of Western acft) want them?

    Mike

    in reply to: Forum Rants #2530581
    MKopack
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    Imagine an Iraqi pilot shooting down an F-15 and being subsequently killed by his wingman. The F-15 loss will be attributed to SAM or AAA, no claim from Iraqi pilot will ever appear. Does this theory fit? I think it fits pretty well.

    I am neither applying that Iraqis actually shot other aircraft down, nor having any proofs regarding that. But, again, to be perfectly objective, you also have no proofs on the contrary.

    Why would the Iraqi’s have hidden, or not paraded the wreckage? No wreckage of any F-15C was ever shown in Iraqi television (and around the world on CNN) when nearly every other lost aircraft WAS proudly shown. Including our own 87-0257, lost 16 years ago today with its pilot Jeff Tice becoming a POW.

    http://www.lucky-devils.net/adq1.jpg

    It would be difficult to hide the loss of any F-15C as all of the aircraft are relatively ‘out in the open’ and all of the losses that they have had – none during combat operations – have been accounted for. Any loss would be known by hundreds of people in the military and soon after the world, just as the Hornet’s loss on the first night was.

    Why hide it, is a 100+ to 1 kill rate that much worse than a 100+ to 0?

    Mike

    in reply to: Sixteen years ago – where were you? #2530623
    MKopack
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    Can I ask why it seems a big deal is being made about this anniversary this year? Not belittling the contributions of those involved just finding it strange that the 16th anniversary is suddenly in the news. Since when do we “celebrate” the 16th anniversary of anything? Obviously last year was the 15th anniversary and I don’t remember even a whisper.

    Daniel

    No big ‘celebration’ here and I haven’t really seen any anywhere else either. I’ve just been getting around to writing and thought that some might be interested in what we did all those years ago.

    Mike

    in reply to: Sixteen years ago – where were you? #2530657
    MKopack
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    The 18th of January, the second day of Desert Storm, had gone well. In the morning and then again in the afternoon we’d launched our pilots and jets north, to Kuwait and Iraq and – as a reporter said during the Falklands – I counted them all out, and I counted them all back. The Allies had lost several more aircraft today, but we were all relieved that the numbers of losses were much lower then the official projections, or those that we had discussed around the picnic table. Although the weather wasn’t as good over the theater as we’d hoped, the Iraqis were still being pounded around the clock by US and our Allies airpower and whenever the Iraqi Air Force decided to launch a sortie, it was generally a ‘one-way’ trip, courtesy of our Saudi based F-15’s. We all hoped that our guys would have their opportunity against the MiG’s and Mirages as well.

    Tent City seemed a little odd though, being apart from the ‘action’ on the flightline, there didn’t seem to be much going on out of the ordinary – as if ‘the war’ didn’t really effect many of those who didn’t work on the aircraft and with the pilots. One change that there was in Tent City didn’t last long though, the chow hall (I know that it’s not the ‘politically correct’ modern name, but this is my d*mned story…) announced that the dining hours would be reduced and that there would be no more midnight meal, as they had been tasked with their secondary wartime roles. This didn’t go over well with our Wing Commander. Apparently the chow hall and its services personnel double as the morgue during wartime “My people are hungry, not dead,” he said as he assured the SVS commander that there would be four full meals a day and “Any time of the day or night that one of my flightline people is hungry, there WILL be something for them to eat, even if it’s just an MRE.” Anything for his people, I’d have followed him anywhere.

    Once again we were in and out of our chem gear and masks quite often during the day and night. Several SCUD’s had hit Israel for the first time, and we were concerned about them retaliating, quite possibly with nuclear weapons as a response to a major chemical attack – which had the potential to break up the Allied coalition and put us in a pretty sticky situation with our host nations. I had dinner with a couple of the pilots one night as we discussed it and the fact the the prevailing wind pretty much headed our way. “If they did something like that to us and we had to evacuate back to Spain, I know where we could jettison a lot of bombs…” Fortunately cooler heads prevailed and the Israelis stayed out.

    The jets were flying well, so my main job was decon. We prepositioned ourselves over at the Qatari parachute shop, which gave us a good place to wait prior to our runs out to EOR. We usually went out an hour before the acft were due back, giving us time to get suited up and to have our equipment ready. Now that I knew what to expect when I checked the swab, the inspections went quickly. Spirits were high, things were going well. After just two days, the war had settled into a routine. President Bush asked the American public to not get too confident, that there was a long way to go, but perhaps this whole thing was going to turn our easier than we’d expected. Time would tell.

    It seemed that the only Iraqi target that hadn’t been hit in the first 48 hours was CNN’s Peter Arnett.

    Mike

    3.7 million pounds of ordinance, 1303 sorties, 42 days. The ‘Forgotten 1000’.
    Visit the Lucky Devils in the Gulf War at: http://www.lucky-devils.net

    in reply to: Sixteen years ago – where were you? #2530661
    MKopack
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    The first day of the war had gone well by all accounts, the Allies had lost six aircraft, which considering the resistance and the heavy anti-aircraft defenses was less than most expected. The Iraqi’s were taking a beating from all sides, both in Kuwait and in Iraq itself. Thousands of sorties had delivered thousands of tons of weapons on a wide range of targets. Things were looking good, although we all knew that we were only at the beginning of what had the potential to be a hard fight.

    For us in Doha with the Lucky Devils, our pilots and aircraft came back without a scratch from their first missions. I did have a nervous moment at Decon when our first aircraft came back – one of the guys ‘swabbed’ the wing and carried the ‘stick’ up to me. There was a blue-gray haze where it had been wiped across the wing, theoretically at least a possible positive indication; could it be chemicals? Damn, it couldn’t be. I’d just talked to the Ops guys and nothing at all had been reported anywhere in the theater. I swabbed the acft myself in all of the places where residue could/should hide. Everyone on the team looked at me – it was my call. After a moment I said, “No, it’s clean. Send them home.” I’ve second guessed that decision a million times since then, even though I swabbed an acft that didn’t even fly that day and got the same result after we got back to the hangar. But what if I’d gotten it wrong…

    It had been a long day, in and out of chem gear who knows how many times, for decon inspections and for the intermittent SCUD launches. In theory the SCUD’s couldn’t reach us in Qatar (according to Intel) but later we’d find that to be not quite true. Between the war at work, and watching the war on TV, I was tired, and tomorrow would come soon enough so I called it a day. Our first day at war. But before I crawled into my sleeping bag I placed my old steel helmet and gas mask just under the side of my cot where I could reach it the instant the sirens went off again. And again.

    Over the next few weeks we’d have plenty of chances to practice. Before I fell asleep I said a little prayer for the guys that we’d lost that day, and hoped that tomorrow would go as well.

    Mike

    3.7 million pounds of ordinance, 1303 sorties, 42 days. The ‘Forgotten 1000’.
    Visit the Lucky Devils in the Gulf War at: http://www.lucky-devils.net

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    401TFW/614TFS Torrejon AB, Doha Qatar

    in reply to: 614th TFS "Lucky Devils" in the Gulf War #2568863
    MKopack
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    Thanks for the link. I read about Stroke 1 in Vipers in the Storm by Keith Rosenkranz.

    Thanks for the reply Viper01! Rosey (flying from the UAE with the F-16 unit from Hill AFB) was about 60 miles ahead of our guys when Tico and Cujo were hit. His site is http://www.vipersinthestorm.com

    The late afternoon of 19 January found me, as the NCOIC of aircraft decontamination, out at the approach end of Doha’s 15,000′ runway. I’d made it a point on all of our previous missions to count each of the returning aircraft as they touched down. It was, as I recall, the first time our guys had come home with wing tanks jettisioned and I can’t even describe how it felt to come up two short in my count. I just kept hoping that they’d diverted for fuel or something, but when the aircraft turned short and bypassed the decon inspection to make a quick return to the ramp I knew that it wasn’t the case.

    I had the decon deuce-and-a-half flying on the way back to the ramp (scary in itself as I had no military drivers license and my ‘normal’ ride was an MGB) and we arrived just as engines were shutting down. A lot of unrecorded records were set in the next few minutes as the aircraft were combat turned (simultanious rearm and refuel) just in case our guys could get back up there to help in the search. In the end because of the distance and the fact that more capable aircraft were already tasked and overhead they didn’t go.

    The entire feeling had changed at the base, the war had suddenly become so much closer to all of us that stayed behind as we watched our pilots launch each morning and afternoon, not knowing, at that time, the fate of our two friends. I think we all had a completely silent dinner at the chowhall tent that night.

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    Mike Kopack

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