I made a paper airplane as far as i know. :rolleyes:
I made a paper airplane as far as i know. :rolleyes:
F-16/79 using a TF-41 w/ reheat would have been better. They also could have used TF-30. The Speys were ramping up to 30K thrust by then, although that particular model was more like an F101.
Not really, how about a P&W F135 engine? Would be nice.
Maximum Thrust: 43,000 lbf (191.35 kN) max, 28,000 lbf (124.6 kN) intermediate.
Does anyone want to talk about Modern Military Aviation instead of something you lot have no clue about? It’s an Aviation Forum after all, the clue is in the title…
What i was exactly wondering. This is a deticated thread about Military Aviation. I have no clue about these nonsense threads. If you want to make a discussion thread that involves about politics, government or a war situation, Feel free to post it on the general discussion threads. Not acceptable in the Military Aviation thread. There’s just no subject or topic that involves the Military Aviation arena. Just plain discussions about politics and war situations.
Yes it would certainly seem like they’re true believers in the technology and thier aircraft place a great emphasis on it which is interestingly somewhat of a contrast compared to Russia’s latest offerings.
Yea they’ll never phase out the future stealth proposals. But they also need to focus on the interagated systems, radar, airframe on the UAV/Aircraft in order to succeed in the airframe. But i guess China is only caring and focus on strealth more.
But they do focus on military aircraft. But i think around 2020 they’ll be using the UAV unmanned only. But they will still have the J-20 on design and waiting for the next generation upgrades to the J-20. But…… :rolleyes: Also in the future, they will design the J-XX which is a similar platform to the J-20.
In a 2009 television interview, He Weirong stated that that China had multiple such programs underway and that an as-yet-undesignated fifth-generation fighter developed jointly by Chengdu Aircraft Corporation and Shenyang Aircraft Corporation would be in service by 2017–2019.
One thing is for sure and that’s that the Chinese sure are sold on the idea of “stealth”. Makes one wonder if they’ll eventually surpass the US as masters of the stealth game.
I don’t think the Chinese could surpass American stealth technology. It takes time for the US to build a extensive stealth aircraft and takes time from cost and production. Same as the aircrframe, avionics, radar etc.
But i think the Chinese can build well and surpass the UAV technology much better than what the drones or UAV planes America builds. Technically, i think that the Chinese are addicted/ in love with stealth technology, so that’s why there continuing with the stealth manned aircraft/unmanned aircraft series with build in stealth.
F-117 used an F404 without the afterburner. General Electric worked out the fan pressure schedule based on the F-117’s stealth exhaust system. F-117 handling qualities were reported to be similar to the A-7, which is why the A-7 was used as a trainer for F-117 pilots.
I know that the F-117 used a non afterburner engine, what i said was how could a F404 go on a F-117 with its flat body shape. But the engine type had good core power when going subsonic and reducing the reduction of engine noise. But the A-12 used a new F412 engine and the F-117 used the GE-F404-F1D2 engines so there the same non afterburing engines but the F412 has better noise reduction and it’s hooked behind the A-12s behind and you can’t see the engines clearly.
Do the maths on this and the missile discussion and then post something substantial. Or please stfu!
How about, stop doing the nonsense and start going back to the topic.
Just ignore the troll.
The grumpy old troll who was under the bridge?
Ace combat games are quite far from reality, at least from a technical and tactical point of view. For the feeling of speed and task saturation, they have been described as “more realistic than those so called simulators” by people who did the real thing.
Still, to get a feel for how the real things might work, try something more like a simulation such as Digital Combat Simulator. True sims tend to be a tad “dry” and focus on the systems side of things.
To the others; I wouldnt be so quick to dismiss games. They are a valuable tool to gain insight into tactics and comparative analysis of different systems. We can talk all day how about it’s the pilot quality that matters more than the machine he’s flying, but until you have tried fighting an F-pole joust with an underpowered kite it’s all just theory.
Mabye you should go back to your simulators? I know ace combat is a arcade game and everything is fictional. I don’t need a computer simulation game. I already have one on my IPad. Called X-Plane. Also the sims are knot usually real. You get the flying real, but in a game filled with dogfighting like you mentioned about the simulator, it isn’t real. The flying part is real, but in a action dogfighting, it’s fiction. I don’t play any video games anymore. But hey, thanks for the link. But Ace Combat is just Japan’s fantasy games of aviation.

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F-18Growler,
Could you please try to write in a way that someone can understand ??? This is illegible.
Like i said, im not an only English person. I speak 2 languages, Spanish and English, so please be kind to a person that speaks 2 languages.
It’s not what’s irrelevant, it’s which country has or doesn’t have to use aircraft, thats what matters the most.
The F-117? It’s more or less cobbled together from F-16/F-18 parts.
I wonder how they refitted the engine F404 to the F-117. Initially, i think they stretched the Engine and put it to the F-117. I have no conformation on that, what so ever. But it’s rare to fit a Engine platform and put on a F-117.
I don’t remember but the A-12 Avenger II was deprived into a new non afterburing engine developed by GE engineers just like the F-117, but later developed a new core engine. It’s when GE developed the F404 into the F412-GE-400 for the A-12 Avenger II. Which gave the A-12 more core power at subsonic speeds.
But i also wonder why the USAF consider to replace the General Dynamics F-111. i’d preferably, consider the A-12 to replace the F-117 Nighthawk. But it was a ATA to get into production. several cost and overruns where the problems to the A-12 Avenger II.
But the A-12 got phased due to the cost and delays of production. All that remained where the artist impressions and models. I’d consider the F-117 and A-12 to be one of the best stealthy ground attack aircraft with superior low RCS.
But as for the F-117 it was an unusual aircraft. The F-117 was pretty much a documented stealthy plane, but nobody gave the classified F-117 info to anybody. Until it was phased out of production, it remianed classified still with some compontets. But later the USAF was giving out the exact info that everybody wanted to know about this unusual aircraft with its triangular wings and body. But i wonder why the USAF Rejected the F-117 program.
O i remember that incident,
August of 2005, Thunderbirds were initially grounded because of a mid-air collision at the Chicago Airshow.
the F-16 flown by Major Steven Horton drifted into Major Chris Callaghan’s jet during a diamond maneuver in which they are about 18 inches apart. Horton’s missile rail fell off when it touched the Thunderbirds stabilizer. The pilots involved didn’t even know the planes had collided during that incident.
They say it just felt like air turbulence so they kept pressing with the show until the safety advisor on the ground told them a piece fell off and stopped their performance.
The investigation handled by an external military panel.
Lt. Col. Chandler, reviewed the proceeders, so he can fly again with the 2005 Thunderbird team.
No more shows have been canceled. This weekend the team will be in Westfield, Mass. The last time two Thunderbirds made contact in mid-air was during take off in Florida in 1999.