The problem with the GE F414 EPE’s and the proposed Stealthy Upgrades is like the “Chicken before the Egg or the Egg before the Chicken”! As the Stealth Upgrades would help lower the RCS. Yet, they in turn hurt performance with all that extra drag. So, the USN is testing both right now to see if the proposed trade offs from Boeing are really worth it??? Regardless, Stealth and/or Performance Increases are likely to be small at in the best case. So, it’s hardly a threat to the F-35. (i.e. F-35 vs Super Hornet)

Lower the RCS would help. But the Super Bug isn’t considered a “True” stealth fighter. The fact is that the Bug is very survivable in any engagement. There’s no need to make the Bug stealthy for all the stealth fans. Which “Survivable” means everything to the bug.

Don’t know if they hurt performance, but the CFT’s creates lift while carrying them.
With the tons of drag the Bug might reduce drag up to 10%.
Not much but it does increase acceleration (if it’s more likely to do that).
I think it’s worth for Boeing to manage new upgrades.
Stealth doesn’t increase, the smaller RCS you have the least you’ll get detected from a non true stealth fighter. Stealth isn’t the Super’s main thing, it’s being survivable against emerging threats etc.

But weight needs to be reduced that way performance isn’t that bad.

Well what’s the hardly threat to the F-35?

Not likely as the Super Hornet will have inferior performance in the vast majority of any WVR Engagement. Because it will have to carry all of it’s stores externally. (Pylons, Missiles, External Fuel Tanks, etc.) In addition even getting to the merge would likely be a long shot. Remember, the story’s of F-15’s not even seeing the F-22 Raptors until they flew overhead!

“First Look, First Shot, First Kill!”

O please Scooter, it’s all a joke dude. We just have fun, do you really take the jokes seriously?

i’m pretty sure the F-35 can do WVR with DAS and AIM-9x. But the F-35 just has a lower T/W Ration for the Navy version. But the F-35 can do Air-to-Air fine in the BVR engagement.

Now you claiming such thing.

The Bug doesn’t have to carry external stores. That’s why the Navy is acquiring the CFT’s on the Rhinos so that the Bug doesn’t have to add such harsh weight. + add EPE Engines and bam. You gain better performance with EPE’s. Now please don’t claim something from the past. The Block III is being tested and the Rhino will recive significant better performance today. Now the Rhino is a good WVR fighter, but it’s the EFT’s and the old engines that make it a poor performer. It’s not the plane it’s self. So don’t be judging the airframe or the plane. It’s the Engines and the heavy payloads it carries.

Also do you know what inferior means? Using inferior doesn’t make sense at all.

You know, every time i hear about scary stuff, it reminds me of The Exorcist movie.

Hoho, gives chills to think about the Exorcist and the girls scary face. :dev2:

The F-18 will provide excellent target practice for the F-35 :dev2:

We’ll see about that. :dev2: