As far as Britians concerned i think Johnathan Ross would be a great candidate. 😀 😀
Yes Anna give it to someone who can’t pronounce his own name. 😀 :rolleyes:
Oh no more Duxford 😀





Nice pics Anna 😀
Hi Phil,
Your emotion is rather running ahead of either research, facts, or even what I said,rather than what you think I said.Shocking as it may seem, I’ve never taken a fighter pilot’s word for anything, unvalidated. Brave chaps, but generally not deep thinkers, among other technical problems for qualified comment. ‘Being there’ is the most over-rated historical qualification by those studying by emotion. 😉
Well if you don’t believe the pilots who do you believe, you’ve got a nerve
coming out with such a dismissive statment about the people who flew both the Spit& hurri and have said on both tv interviews and other publications
that the BB would have been lost with an all hurricane force, how many times are you and others going to keep on about “But the Hurricane shot down more aircraft than the Spit”, we blo&dy well know, but at the end of the
day the Battle of Britain will be remembered as a battle won by Michell’s finest,
not by the hurricane, not by radar, not by command an control, but by pilots from all over the world and Empire flying Spitfire’s over the fields of Kent, 😀 thats how it’s been for 66 years and that how it will be for ever 😉 no matter
how that sticks in your throat you will just have live with it. On here your just
Preaching to the confirmed 😉
Pip Pip, Old Bean
Fair enough!
Hmmm. Well off topic, but I’d hold up a hand to wanting to acknowledge the Hurricane’s contribution to the Battle of Britain being significantly greater than the Spitfire’s, despite the modern perception that the Hurricane was some kind of ‘also-ran’ to the, yes, glamourous Spitfire, if it is remembered at all.
There were more Hurricanes. They shot down more enemy aircraft than the Spitfires. More, actually, than everyone else put together.
In historical terms, pointing that out to (often) repeated surprise can hardly be called ‘revisionism’ in its prejortative sense, but certainly a correction of a false impression of the Spitfire’s supirior contribution, rather than its genuinely superior performance. An inferior piece of technology which achieves more (though greater numbers, themselves a factor of older, easier production requirements) than a ‘superior’ one can rightly be seen as an ‘underdog’, can’t it?
Or were you advocating this view, and highlighting ‘Spitfire snobbery’?
And are we off topic yet? 😀
Could we have won the Battle of Britain with just the Hurricane, NO.
Could we have won it with just the Spitfire YES. This comes from EX battle of britain fighter pilots. ask any ex battle of britain fighter which aircraft they
would rather go in to combat in and 90% will say the Spit, or put it another way in which aircraft do you think Dowding if he had the choice in 1940 would have put his fighter pilots in, the only reason the RAF were flying hurricanes in 1940 is because there was not enough spit to replace them, it’s not Spitfire Snobbery it’s fact, after 1940-41 the Hurricane as a fighter was second class.
Why do people keep going on about the how the Hurricane shot down more
Aircraft than the Spit, it’s been said before a hundred times on this forum.
Phil.
But was it 😮 or was it faked :confused:
Of course it was faked, in fact the yanks got so good at faking it they faked
it Six times :rolleyes:
But was it 😮 or was it faked :confused:
Of course it was faked, in fact the yanks got so good at faking it they faked
it Six times :rolleyes:
Britains finest hour.
Well yes they probably were the First English Men in Space :rolleyes:
Britains finest hour.
Well yes they probably were the First English Men in Space :rolleyes:
America’s Finest Hour.

America’s Finest Hour.

Not what I said. I pointed out that it’s not hard to show that most of the list isn’t just British in either content or execution; nowhere did I say or imply that they weren’t to be proud of – that’s your defensive conclusion.
I said:
Really? What a large and inaccurate assertion. 😀 I’d grant you that they were the products of British and French empires, but to claim that the compilers were frogs or rosbeefs exclusively, no, it won’t do, Watson. 😉 Literally thousands of non British and French people made those museums what they are today.
Nationalist claims are so often straw figures erected for the partisan to salute – sorry if I can’t resist knocking them over. Time to grow up and smell the coffee. 😉
All i can smell is the Bull&hit 😀 you but up for a reply, how much progress do you think mankind made because of those two Empires, “no it won’t do Watson 🙂 funny that to quote a ficticious character from a book written by a man who believed in fairies, btw why is that only people that can’t get over the British Empire are the people that hate it so much, a bit like youself, let the Empire go move on, it gets a tad tiresome after a while :diablo:
Pip Pip Chuffer 😀
[QUOTE=JDK]Damn right.
Hear, er, hear!
A good day to be proud of an amazing LSR achievement (it’s more like flying at that speed!)
Britain has a great collection of wonderful stuff to be proud of, and it’s a global achievement too – if I may…
1. Old Warden. (Very British; but the Bleriot, Czech-flown Spitfire, and Canadian built Lysander, not to mention a few others do come to mind…)
2. Grahame White Hangar – Ohh, tough one. CGW flew an Anglo-French Farman, and there’s a couple of airframes (Hanriot, Caudron G3) in it whose ‘Britishness – isn’t.
3. Airspace – Several airframes from Canada, including a Lysander, Lancaster and CF-100…
4. Cold War Cosford… (Don’t mention the F-111. :p )
5. Black Magic Rebuild Project… Survived thanks in part to use by the Portuguese…
6. A flying Vickers Vimy... Built in America, funded by an American, and flown by all sorts of people including an Aussie and a Yank, plus some bloke from Basingrad, People’s Republic of…
7. NX611 – Or the ex-Spirit of Surfer’s Paradise; sponsored by same for flying back from Australia…
8. A Miles Falcon – Thanks (in part) to the Swedes…
9. Friends on the Forum – Wordwide…
10. Old Enemies on the Forum :p Also too close…
11. Chipmunks – Canadian designed by an ex-pat Pole (Wsiewolod Jakimiuk)…
12. Alex Henshaw… Record breaker not within the British isles, but the length of Africa, with some (acknowledged) help…
OK, it’s a bit of a mickey-take, but it IS a global preservation scene, and the jewels are spread widely around the world. It’s great that so much is available, whether in the UK or anywhere else. It’s not to knock TT’s point, which with the JCB is a great one, but to acknowledge that it is (and IMHO always has been) an international game.
Proud to be a citizen of the world. ;)[/QUOTE
Well that a bit like saying we shouldn’t be proud of the British Museum because it’s full foreign artifacts, or that the French Shouldn’t be proud
of the louvre because it’s full of art from all over the world. The British & the French put those to places together for the world to see, nobody else.
But like you say it’s a bit of a mickey take, because if it’s not then it’s a bit of a silly comment. 😀 so stop trying to belittle the things that makes this Gods Country 😀 😀 😀 oh and before you go off on one,please take note of the
smilies
Regards Phil.
Kudos to the security folks (with an assist to the Pakistanis!) who caught the potential bombers at Heathrow today!! Way to be on the ball and stop another terrorist plot….could have really made a mess over here if they had gotten through, what with plotting to blow up 10 planes headed for the US…Well done!
Mark
Thanks Mark, a lot of people in this Country have got there heads so far up
there arses they can’t see whats going on around them. I keep wondering
which Country they will target when they do get an Atomic Weapon.
Kudos to the security folks (with an assist to the Pakistanis!) who caught the potential bombers at Heathrow today!! Way to be on the ball and stop another terrorist plot….could have really made a mess over here if they had gotten through, what with plotting to blow up 10 planes headed for the US…Well done!
Mark
Thanks Mark, a lot of people in this Country have got there heads so far up
there arses they can’t see whats going on around them. I keep wondering
which Country they will target when they do get an Atomic Weapon.