I would much rather that both a Do 17 and a Hampden are saved and unrestored until later, than that a historic aircraft, at the forefront of the Battle of Britain, is lost forever. History is eternal. No need to rush the restoration of the Hampden at the expense of a priceless relic.
Except that the generation the flew both the Hampden (and the Dornier) are getting fewer and fewer by the day. I well remember the pleasure shown by an ex Barracuda pilot when I told him that the FAAM and the Bluebird project team were resurrecting an example of the extinct breed he once flew as a young man..
Just been a piece on the BBC lunchtime news as well.
Let’s hope that the IWM takes this opportunity to re-instate the correct sky blue undersurfaces on Culley’s Camel
Any info on the HP 0/400 will be nice. I am working on one, but to 1/28 scale scratchbuild.
Cees
Don’t worry Cees – as soon as you finish it, Wingnut Wings will come out with a superbly detailed 0/400 in 1/32nd scale – it always happens like that
In the meantime I wonder whether their associate company, The Vintage Aviator Ltd, represents the best chance of seeing one in the air……
Any info on the HP 0/400 will be nice. I am working on one, but to 1/28 scale scratchbuild.
Cees
Don’t worry Cees – as soon as you finish it, Wingnut Wings will come out with a superbly detailed 0/400 in 1/32nd scale – it always happens like that
In the meantime I wonder whether their associate company, The Vintage Aviator Ltd, represents the best chance of seeing one in the air……
A Vulcan 4 ship scramble at a Finningley Airshow in about 1963/64 and the time when a 617 Squadron Vulcan commemorating the Dams Raid flew over the Derwent Dam wall and then went skyward at about 45 degrees setting off all the car alarms, particularly as we were looking down on it from the hillside.
Wonder whether they will replace the canopy :diablo:
I guess they’re preparing airframes to hang in that ridiculous tower thingy which is the latest architectural flight of fancy purporting to be an aircraft museum.
I can think of far more deserving airframes for attention – such as the Beaufighter which is pretty much stripped out
just got back from an excellent day
Historic display content=
Grace Spitfire Tr9, TFC Corsair, Spit V, P40F and Hawk 75, Marinelle and Janie, Peter Vacher’s Hurricane, Peter Holloway with the Storch, Harvard, Bucker and Bf108 and last but by no means least, particularly when landing on and taking off from a couple of fields with the hedge taken out, the Aces High C47 . Other visiting but not displaying historics included L-4, Stearman and Chippy.
Tomorrow includes the Vulcan and BBMF participation,
Plus hundreds of Military vehicles and re-enactors of all shapes and sizes
I always understood that the wing folds on the Irish Seafires were deactivated in some way but that picture seems to show that the wing fold was operational – at least at that particular stage of the airframe’s life
jeepman
When they were originally built the airfields were to hold 3 squadrons and each squadron had their own hangar or ‘Coupled General Service Shed’ and the single span ‘Shed’ was a ‘Repair Hangar’ where the squadron aircraft were fixed and serviced.
Brian
thanks for that – I presumed there was a reason – just didn’t know it!
I’m guessing that the site is listed – so presumably the GS shed would need to be replaced like for like.
Just as a matter of interest, does anybody know why they built that single Belfast truss hangar when the other three were doubled? – was it something to do with required capacity – or ground conditions – or some other reason?
Its a Casa 352 at Cosford, and I for one think that it would look good in an RAF-impressed immediate post war scheme – given the number of Ju’s used by the RAF in 1946-7.
If Duxford want more space, they could always rebuild the single Belfast hangar blown up in the Battle of Britain film :diablo: – surely the woodwork could be saved from a Belfast truss hangar about to be demolished elsewhere.
I think “undercarriage” here has to be interpreted as “wheels” only.
It appears to me that none of the currently airworthy Ju 52’s and CASA 352’s have the original narrow, large-diameter wheels, using instead (smaller, wider) wheels with more readily available tires. Surely one wouldn’t have to change much on the undercarriage (e.g. struts) simply to mount different wheels?
Bit more than that – from the same SAA Historic Flight website….
“In the late 80s and early 1990s SAA experienced numerous problems with the ZS-AFA’s undercarriage, including non-availability of tyres. Many things were tried, recapping the tyres was one, until a supply of well preserved original tyres (They were “Phoenix Harburg”, if my memory serves me correctly) was found in Germany. These were shipped to South Africa, but after removal from storage deteriorated at an alarming rate, and their smooth surface, perfect for grass, bit the tar just too well and tore the by now 50 year old cotton strengthened sidewalls with alacrity.
Also this original arrangement featured the true Teutonic mantra of reliability through simplicity. There were no wheel bearings instead grooved phosphor bronze bushes were slid over the axle, if not greased every ten landings, or greased with a grease attacking the phosphor bronze they were prone to wear too (just like a Citroen Traction gearbox).
Eventually over time the axles were ovalled with wear too and investigation was made into repairing this problem. First new bushes led to a seized wheel on the runway. Next chrome plating of the axle was tried – this could not be done as Martensite or severe embrittlement had taken place on the big axle (which runs in one piece on this arrangement from the fuselage to the wheel). This had been caused by the heat control techniques used at production.
Next some original Ju 52/3m axles were acquired, but alas, the same problem lay with them. Denel investigated production of new axles, but this too came to nought as the original heat control techniques could not be replicated leaving the bend in the axle either too soft or too brittle. In the end the aircraft was parked in the SAA Apprentice Training School and remained un-flown for some four or five years until it was ferried to Swartkop in 1999. It then participated in one air show and remained un-flown again, until by the initiative of Captain Tony van Eeden the project was restarted in 2003 – the aircraft then being part of Transnet.
A chance look on airliners.net revealed a photograph of a Amiot AAC 1 Toucan at Duxford on static display, standing, as it were, on the solution! The revised Amiot undercarriage with the different axle incorporating wheel bearings, expander tube brakes and available tyres was perfect. A couple of phone calls later and a visit, the deal was done! ZS-AFA was jacked up, her main undercarriage removed, bar the “Kronprintz struts” (Junkers version of oleos) and sent to England.
A team from Transnet and SAA did the swop and within a few days the replacement undercarriage was at Swartkop waiting to be fitted. The most challenging was removing the wheel rims from the tyres, as the tyres had been pumped with solid rubber for display! A selection of hacksaws, kitchen knives and angle grinders did the job and after about two weeks we could send the rims and axles for NDI.”
I seem to recall that one of the reasons for the disposal of the AAC1 was that it was a post -war built aircraft with a different undercarriage to that used in the Ju52/CASA352.
I thought this was rather interesting – copied from the SAA Historic Flights ZS-AFA page………
“Captain Tony van Eeden, Chief Pilot of the SA Historic Flight and at the time a Senior Captain on SAA’s B747 fleet learnt of a Junkers Ju 52 museum specimen at the Imperial War Museum at Duxford near Cambridge in the UK. The Imperial War Museum, Duxford, aircraft is actually a Amiot AAC.1 Toucan c/n 48 licenced built in France. It once served with the Portuguese Air Force as 6316. This aircraft was fitted with the later undercarriage that used more readily available and robust tyres commonly found on Douglas DC-3 aircraft, the size being 17.00-16 12 ply. The Duxford specimen, wearing the German Luftwaffe markings 4V+GH, (previously 1Z-NK) was painted in an authentic World War II colour scheme that was not appropriate for the type of undercarriage that was fitted. ZS-AFA was fitted with the earlier type undercarriage that if fitted to the Duxford example, would make it technically authentic. Tony masterminded a swap of undercarriages. This swap was carried out by Tony with the aid of his flight deck crew whilst on a layover in the UK on a scheduled flight with the aid of SA Historic Flight technicians. The “new” undercarriage was brought back to South Africa, X-rayed and refurbished to the highest modern day technical standards.”
mmmmm…………..