They do. The fat lady has a few hurdles to get over before she can start singing:

They do not. Public opposition to any new fighter purchase does not help Boeing or EF’s case. At worst it’ll defer the F-35 purchase, until their F-16s’ age begins to take (publicly) visible toll (with the EF & SH going out of production). If the purchase is deferred, its only Saab that may have an outside shot at a contract (‘outside’ because it’ll have to contend with a hostile RDAF).

Just like Norway, this was a given.
Both Dassault and EF saw this from 100000miles coming, and couldn’t be bothered file an offer

I think you mean Saab. EF and Boeing still felt they had an (outside) chance at the contract.

I love these charts made by people who haven’t even touched real thing.. And I also love the high scores in the mission effectiveness of the F-35, while the real aircraft can barely take off and land and there is practically no mission it can safely perform..

Maybe, just maybe they’ve accounted for the fact that deliveries to Denmark will only begin in 2021.

So, in your own list the only one you can found as an example of american literature is Mark Twain?
Yes, he is certanly a great writer but almost add Edgar Allan Poe, Hawthorne,Steinbeck, Bukowski, Miller, Pound, Hemingway just to try playing in the same league please…

Sorry Poe doesn’t count. His short stories are still quite accessible to the hoi polloi. Did start reading Dostoeivsky once – quit midway through the first book, when I realised it was a short cut to alcoholism. Took off my top hat and pince nez, opened up a Brandon Sanderson and my day got immeasurably better.

Spielberg as the top????

Well there’s great and then there’s pretentious. Yeah Spielberg’s on top on my list. He’s on top of most people’s lists (yes ahead of Kubrick, Coppola, Welles, Scorsese and those others providing commentaries on the human condition).

What kind of signs on Finnish aircraft? 😉

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This one?

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It doesnt matter what I think , EU lost credibility in the game when they went back on their own commitments for agreed time line , free and fair elections.

Why should any one take EU/US at face value when they dont keep their own word.

They the EU would have atleast kept their own credibility of their own agreement , Yanukovych fate was in Ukraine electoral hands.

Doesnt matter really , when EU cant keep their own word of free and fair election , what result the 2nd or 3rd election gives is not relevant , EU lost its credibility

1. The subsequent elections held in Ukraine were completely free and fair, monitored by international observers. (Donetsk & Luhansk being an obvious exception to that.)

2. Even if that wasn’t the case, expecting the EU to be running a CIS state, even one with a pro-west govt, is absurd.

The issue being discussed however wasn’t about what the EU should have done to retain credibility with Russia, it was about decisions made by Putin, which worked wonders for his personal approval rating, but sacrificed Russia’s historic ties with Ukraine to achieve that.

Who Knows

Logically speaking, how much goodwill would one expect between two states in a state of proxy war?

The rather predictable answer to that is supported by practically every public opinion survey held in Ukraine over the last two years.

You are forgetting the bigger picture. Ever since the fall of the USSR the west (US) is pushing harder and harder into affairs that are really at Russia’s doorstep.

How far can you keep pushing your garden fence towards the bear’s cave before the bear comes out and shows you were enough is enough?

I don’t really know what to make of that comment. Russia showed the West that “enough was enough”… by gouging Ukraine? A country that was until 2013, the most Russophilic of all European states where the majority of even the pro-EU segment considered Russians their brethren. In the process, alienating ambivalent, if not friendly states in Europe, frightening its neighbours, including (thus far) non-allied Finland, and breathing a new life into NATO, an organisation that was increasingly being considering an irrelevant vestigial leftover from the Cold War.

Maybe being an outsider I have a skewed understanding of the real situation, but I always thought of Russia and Ukraine, as akin to US and UK (or maybe Canada). In that, despite a minor dispute every now and then, and a persistent tug from Europe, their foreign policies were mostly aligned, their industries deeply enmeshed, people-to-people relations extremely deep and an actual conflict between the two simply unthinkable.

Stealth will be useful but it will not be fullproof, especially for initial strikes against an advanced IADS. There is a difference between being usefull and being sufficient on its own all the time. Again the fact that the F-117 was escorted on some missions by EF-111s during GW1 is a good example

Nothing is foolproof and no, nobody’s suggesting that the aircraft will operate in isolation. What is being said is that stealth is a necessary part of the equation, even if its not sufficient by itself.

It is hard to say which one has the best range, given the fact that it depends a lot on the launch parameters. Against moving targets the SDB2 might have a shorter range than if it is used against a fixed target.

The JSOW would be less accurate using INS guidance if GPS is not available.

No its not hard to say. The SDB-I will have better range. And its intended for use against static targets.

The JSOW has an IIR seeker. It does not rely on GPS. The variants with cluster munition warheads meanwhile, do not require precision.

So they don’t use CBUs anymore but they use the JSOW-A? Weird logic. Anyways even at that they would have to use A LOT of those missiles to have enough to survive and saturate the area. That means a lot of F-35s given that each F-35 carries only 2. And it works IF the F-35 can approach at high altitude to launch their glide bombs.

Who told you the CBUs were retired? Both they as well as the JSOW-A are very much in the USAF/USN inventory, though given the unconventional nature of recent conflicts, they have seen little use (for obvious reasons).

And yes, the operators will use lots of missiles, lots of bombs, lots of EW and lots of aircraft for the job.

Good luck with that if the radars move and if the datalinks are jammed. The TLAM and CALCMs are not sufficiently stealthy so forget it. And the TLAM, CALCM and JASSM have no terminal seeker suitable for that role. Can you tell me exactly which variant of which missile you would use?

The radars can fold up in 5 minutes. They can’t disappear in that time. And the TLAM & JASSM both have a terminal seeker well suited to hitting mobile targets (which is what a folded radar unit on-the-move is).