Hey Stormeagle,no offence but you’re talking nonsense.The A-7H is still a good attack jet is if the A-7 series was in such dire need of replacement,why did the Greek goverment recently buy suplus A-7Es off the US? As far as other HAF news goes ,I heard the HAF may be interestd in the F-15H Strike Eagle,it would be cheaper then the EF2000 and have better multirole capability.Although they may have changed their minds on this too.I also read they are reopening their helicopter compition to find a replacement for their UH-1s and unlike the first time,the NH-90 and S-92 will not be contenders.The AS-332B Super Puma and UH-60 will be however.As far as the politics of it go,look on the bright side,at least Greece hasn’t gone the way of New Zealand and scrapped all its combat aircraft.
Jesus Christ,I see the Idiots have come out of the woodwork.Forget the Iranians or North Koreans,I’m just glad that some of the people in here don’t have nukes,lol.I will say this nonsense makes for a good laugh though.I say if the Iranians or North Koreans want nukes,let them have them,its not like they’d use them.Plus another Cold War would be good for the US economy,just like in the ’80s.
I’m going to have to go with the F-100 on this one.
I realize that it was some years ago the Aussies used the A-4Gs.But as far as the AMX program goes,I assumed it was doing fine,seeing as Venezuela just ordered some of the two seat AMX ATAs to help replace their aging T-2 Buckeyes.Also,Lets look quickly at the alternatives.
1.Sea Harrier-Being phased out of FAA service in its FA.2 model,therefore surplus airframes would exist but training would be difficult seeing as the Brazilian Navy has no prior V/STOL experance.Also the Sea Harrier doesn’t have a very wide array of weapon options,and is mostley used in the fleet defence/interceptor role.This is why the RAF deployed its Harrier GR.7s on the carriers,to provide an attack element.
2.Goshawk 2000-Not a bad idea,as Malaysia used Hawks to replace its A-4PTMs but in this case,I’d have to disagree.The Goshawk wouldn’t have a very large weapon load,and its range/weapon types used would be the same as the A-4s already in service.In my opinion,these would be almost as worthless as the Yak-38 Forger was in the Russian Navy.
3.Rafale M-Great multirole fighter,great naval aircraft,but out of Brazil’s price range.Although it could operate from the Foch class carrier Brazil bought off France and in a way,I’m surprised the French goverment didn’t offer some Rafales to go with it.
4.Su-33 Sea Flanker-Highly unlikely for 2 reasons.First,the airforce cancelled its order/intention to order the Su-35 on cost grounds and therefore I doubt the Navy would get its own Su-33s.2nd is the fact,as someone already pointed out,that Russia isn’t marketing the Su-33 for export and doesn’t have that many itself after its carrier program got cut.Then theres also the little fact that the Foch class carrier is smaller then the Russian carrier.Carrying a lare fighter like the Su-33 would be difficult since the elevators are too small and they would have to stay on the deck and very few could be carried.The Su-33 is again also more like a Russian F-14,a large,costly fleet defence fighter with little of no multirole capability.
5.Mig-29K Fulcrum-A good choice,great multirole aircraft but again I doubt Brazil could commit to a Russian aircraft and I doubt the Air Force would go for the land based Mig-29.Still,as far as a new buy aircraft,this would be the best choice.
6.F/A-18A/C Hornet-Surplus Hornets do exist but the export market isn’t really there,most going to Spain,which was already a Hornet user.
That would leave the AMX-N and A-7Es as the best 2 possible choices.
I also like the idea of Brazil buying surplus S-3B Vikings.
The A-7E has a good Air to Air capability and I read that they were in fact used as a fighter in the United States navy when the catapults were down and F-14s could not be launched since the A-7E could be launched without a catapult.Sure they only carry AIM-9s,but what are the Brazilian A-4s carrying now? Sidewinders.So there is no difference there.The A-7E also has a greater range,and heavier weapon payload then the A-4.Regardless though,the A-4s aren’t bad,after all Australia used the A-4Gs as fighters to defend the Aussie Carrier Melbourne.As a replacement though,the A-7 or AMX can’t be beat.Both are affordable and in the case of the AMX,produced locally.Brazil doesn’t have the biggest defence budget,and after cancelling its F-X fighters,I doubt you’re going to be seeing Rafales or even F/A-18s flying for the Brazilian Navy.And as far as outer defence of the carrier goes,the AMX or A-7E could handle what would be encountered in South America.I don’t think Argentina or Venezuela have Tu-22M-3 Backfires yet,so Brazil should need a fleet defender combo like the F-14/Phoenix for awhile.
Going along with this,every since the invasion of Iraq to find WMDs,I’ve always found it funny the Bush hasn’t invaded Iran or North Korea,both members of Bush’s “Axis of Evil” and both known to posse nuclear,biological or chemical weapons.The part that was the most surprising was the fact the North Korea in peticular is publicly developing a missile that could around 2012 carry a nuclear warhead to the Great Lakes region and will have a missile that can strike Alaska or Hawaii in a few years.Yet with all this intelligence,Bush went after a country were there was just a small possibliity and no real proof.I think Bush knows the North Korean and Iranian militaries would be a bit harder to crush then some insurgents in Iraq.
9.Lightning-Kuwait,Strikemaster-Kuwait,Vampire-Iraq
Thanks alot guys for the great pics,glad I was able to get them back.
1.Mig-21LL Analog Aircraft that was used to test systems for the Tu-144 Charger SST.
2.F-14A Tomcat or Mig-23 Flogger
9.Hawk Mk.65,Harrier GR.5,Tornado GR.1,Tornado F.3,Buccaneer S.2B,Victor K.2,Nimrod MR.2,Jaguar GR.1,
What about surplus A-7Es? The United States sold some recently to Thailand’s Navy,and while these aren’t deployed on a carrier,they would make a good replacement for the A-4s,as thats what the US Navy replaced its A-4s with.As a 2nd option I’d go with the Naval AMX,sounds like a good idea to me,probbley make a decent little attack bird and who knows,maybe Brazil could talk Italy into producing some on their AMX line to replace or complament their AV-8B Harrier IIs.If they did this,it would off set some of the costs of just one country producing a special version.
As mentioned above,the Iranians have F-14As,Mig-29s and F-4Es,all very good air to air fighters.They also have F-7 Fishbeds and Mirage F.1EQs which are good short range point defence interceptors.They also have 2 or 3 IL-76 Baghdad 2 AWACS aircraft that escaped there from Iraq during the first Gulf War.The AWACS,along with Phoenix armed F-14s would give Iran plenty of warning time andbe able to attack the Israeli F-16s and F-15s before they even entered Iranian airspace.At the same time,the F-15I,F-16I and even the older F-4E-2000 have the range and tanker assets to make the strike possible.They can also carry AGM-142 Popeye standoff missiles which would help keep the attackers out of range of most of the Iranian SAMs and AAA.I’d say it’d be possible for Israel to carry out the attack,even take out the targets,but there would be losses.Then you would have to consider the Iranian response,and seeing as they have Su-24 Fencer bombers that can both reach Israel and carry nuclear weapons,makes for an interesting situation if both countries went to war.
I’d say the Greeks may be reconsidering the option of the F-15H Strike Eagle,which would be a cheaper alternative to EF2000.More capable in the multirole area too,in my openion.
The Mig-29K is better then the Rafale in my opinion but the Indian AF bought Su-30MKIs instead of the Mig-29M,why wouldn’t they go for the Rafale over the Mig-29K? Overall they seem somewhat disappointed with the Mig-29.
I heard the United States was offering Iran aircraft and spare parts on the condition it suspends its nuclear program.Iran does still operate a number of F-14s,so the possibilty is there for some of the stored airframes and spare parts to go to Iran if this deal comes to light.At least one country would continue to operate the Tomcat even if we retired it.
India Picks Rafale-M over MiG-29K
(c) K.B. Sherman, 2003
The Indian Navy recently stated its preference for the French Rafale-M fighter over the MiG-29K for its new aircraft carrier, the ex-Admiral Gorshkov. Seven Rafales currently operate from the French carrier Charles de Gaulle. Originally, India had agreed to buy some of the Gorshkov’s existing complement of MiG-29K aircraft to equip the ship’s air wing. However, this deal has been bogged-down for over four years in bargaining over price and options.
The Indian Navy says it prefers the Rafale (Dassault Aviation of France) because it requires less reconfiguration than would be the case for the MiG-29K. India is likely to buy a first batch of eight Rafales.
The Rafale-M is a single-seat, twin-engine sea attack, air defense and air superiority aircraft. The Rafale-M entered service in 2001 and ten have been delivered. It is equipped with laser designation pods for laser guidance of air-to-ground missiles. It carries the Thales Spectra electronic warfare suite, incorporating a radar warner, DAL laser warning receiver, missile warning system, and jammers. The aircraft is also equipped with a Thales RBE-2 look- down, shoot-up radar and a Thales SAGEM OSF infrared search and track system. The Admiral Gorshkov is the last of four ships in its class, commissioned by the Russian Navy in 1987 and retired in 1994 after the USSR collapsed. India signed an agreement to acquire the carrier in 1998 and haggling over the price and features has been ongoing since. Defense News reports that India’s acquisition of the Gorshkov is scheduled to occur later this year.
Although,I suppose its possible they changed their mids again.