You know whats wierd? I did not know whether feel elated or horrified. I think its called a juxtaposition.

Phil

can anyone explain how a pumpjet propulsor works and is it too big to install on SSK ?

the newest lines of US and british SSNs have replaced the propeller with this.

is the water sucked in, the turbine is internal and the water jet pushed out of the back?

Royal Navy subs have been using this tech since the mid 80s mate though I don’t claim to know how it works.

Phil 🙂

Oh bugger, we’re not going to have this argument again. Jester do you fancy starting a thread about the Falklands/Malvinas sovereignty issue because I don’t think this thread is about that. Not wishing to antagonise anybody but we have a history of diverting all South American issues that have any British content into a Falklands/Malvinas sovereignty issue.

I wonder if this might be in case Argentina decides to go island shopping… (Falklands)

Ed, mate, it’ll all end in tears. Lets keep it on topic.

All

If you like I’ll start a Falklands/Mavinas Sovereignty thread if you really want one, lets call it ‘Lighting the blue touch paper and standing well back.’ :rolleyes:

Phil 🙂

hey phill i will have to agree with blackcat on this one they did make a big deal out of it almost like they were getting pleasure from it.

But i am suprised that private firms were not asked to rescue the guys i am sure their are some that own dsrv’s

Well maybe I don’t pay much attention but lets face it if the Yanks did something great or the Russians or the Indians or anybody else then their own news agencies would also make something of it and nobody would bat an eyelid. I suppose being Brits we are not allowed to or something :rolleyes: .

Phil 🙂

The fact that they had him safely pinned to the ground before shooting him dead points to the idea that he could have been shot with his hands in the air had he obeyed these shouted commands. But lets think about the men shouting at you to stop, not in uniform but in casual gear, whilst waving guns around. Would you stop and ask them what they were doing? Do you stop when driving when you hear emergency sirens and ask them where they are going?

Nermal I hear you and in the main I sympathise but I’d like to make a few points. First, the shooting happened because you can still detonate a bomb whilst being restrained. Second, and I am only guessing here, I am no expert, but I’d say he was pinned and covered by the officers to minimise the effect of the detonation if it had happened.

I feel awful about what happened to this poor bloke and if the decision was yours then perhaps you could judge it. Seeing as it wasn’t give the poor buggers a break, I don’t know what you do for a living but I’ll bet it ain’t half as difficult as their job as of 07/07/05.

Phil 🙂

From what I’ve seen here, the man was actually subdued and THEN shoot.

I don’t know how Scotland Yard does things, but here when a suspect is subdued, kicking or hitting him is a major no no, let alone pumping 5 bullets into him.

…….because, unfortunately, you can still detonate a bomb if you are subdued, the flick of a finger or wrist, the nod of a head, how do you know how the bombs are triggered, I’ll bet the police know and you don’t.

Phil

Very nice pics I think I’ve got wood 😀

Last year I was in the Dulas Valley near Machynlleth in Wales when I saw two Su22 Fitters flying low level (doing the ‘Machynlleth Loop’ as I believe the RAF calls it.) I never got the shots but it was only after that that I heard the Polish Air Force was ‘in town’ training with the Jag’ force out of Coltishall. Hawks, Jags, Tornados and even Hercules’ are ten-a-penny down that route but a couple of ex-Warpac strike fighters was just about the sexiest thing I’d seen all year; and it was a good year for me and military aviation.

Phil 🙂