Yes it is debatable wether we need 200+ Typhoons but thats not the same as saying we DON’T need 200+ Typhoons.

I can see us being able to rely on the USA for the forseable future but not indefinitely and we will always need the capability, however limited, to ‘go it alone’ if needs be.

GrM.

We couldn’t afford the F22 in useful numbers and in any case ‘from my point of view’ the only real advantage the F22 has over the Typhoon is stealth (okay and possibly range). Not a small advantage I know that but otherwise the Typhoon (despite inaccurate reporting to the contrary) is good value for money. Its here, its going into production, the R&D and manufacturing protocols have been established and wether you like it or not, it is going into service and not a moment too soon. Underestimate it if you must but if you plan to go up against it, underestimate it at your own risk. (Not you personally of course.) 🙂

Okay Foster, since you show yourself as a person who knows more about the Typhoon than me, and you probababolbay dooo.. answer me this.. when will a production model Typhoon with full integrated A2G be available, and how it’s A2G matches up with the already existant Beagle’s A2G, give a full load out, types of missions it will be used on, range with stores, and etc.

I don’t know that much and never said I did so far as dates are concerned but capability date is not the question, the question you mooted was the capability, period. You said the Meteor and the A2G capability was non existent you didn’t say anything about time scales.

As for the extent of the A2G capability the only A2G weapon the EF won’t be integrated with is th RBL755 cluster weapon which is being replaced by Brimstone in the battlefield support role. Other A2G weapons included are, Storm Shadow stand off cruise missile, Paveway 2, 3 and 4 including the new dual LGB/GPS versions (a sort of JDAM but cheaper) ALARM anti radiation missiles, CRV7 unguided rockets have also been mooted but I can’t confirm it and a plethora of free fall dumb bombs delivered via radar and PIRATE cues using CCIP, CCRP, toss bombing and other staple methods of battlefield support delivery techniques. This is just the RAF types I don’t know which weapons the Germans, the Italians and the Spanish are employing but it will ensure that the Typhoon will be integrated with most weapons both A2A and A2G in the NATO armoury.

I do know that the 2008 timescale is regards the ‘full and complete’ integration of A2G weaponry and I beleive this is when the Typhoon is due to start replacing the Jaguar. Note, the Jaguar is not an air to air platform, it is a strike aircraft and the Typhoon will be picking up its strike duties as well as an A2A role. It can’t do that if it doesn’t have and A2G capability now can it?

http://www.flightinternational.com/FALANDING_172185.htm

Its not in service but at least it proves the programme exists and its existence was at the centre of your remark.

http://defence-data.com/eft/eftpage19.htm

http://www.eurofighter.com/medialibrary/media/Default.asp?MediaID=3049&CategoryID=414

I know its only a picture but these are some of the weapons currently undergoing integration.

I hope this answers your question.

🙂

Too bad the Meteor is non-existant at the moment and the production Typhoon lacking real A2G capabilities, something the Singapornese need

Don’t you read anything? Or do you just switch off and pretend its not happening when the people who actually know what they are talking about reel off the progress made in both the Meteor programme and the EFs A2G capabilities. The A2G radar capabilities alone exceed the F15E not to mention the PIRATES A2G modes and addon pods, all of which are in various stages of integration even for Tranche 1 aircraft. Meteor integration trials are also well under way so when you say that the Meteor and the EFs A2G capabilities are non existent what exactly do you mean? Non existent in your head or just non existent when you decide to skip that bit and pretend otherwise so you can talk BS on the forum? 😀

Sorry, wrong place, moving to Modern Military……………..

Blimey Ren from what I saw you could get an almost pro quality jobbie for 200 quid. I saw an HP one for £90 in the high street store that shall not be named, the next HP jobbie up from that was about £150. It had an LCD an everything.

I guess they are willing like us you pulling the English out of scrapes that aren’t our fight.

Please explain. You’re not being an A*** Hole again are you?