TKF90 = Taktisches Kampfflugzeug 1990s. It was the original German requirement/proposal/contribution to the Eurofighter program.

Yahoo, stop embarrassing yourself…

Regarding space effort it was more leakage of german or western tech.

Nonsense. The Soviet space program was far more indigenous than the American one. Almost the entire Peenemünde rocket development team under Werner von Braun fled West, surrendered to the Americans and were eventually employed by NASA. The Soviet space program was instigated and carried throughout it’s first decades (the Sputnik and Gagarin years) by Korolyov – a Russian, not a German.

And USSR didnot defeated Germany. It was the US-UK airpower that destroyed German industrial complex because of which they couldnot reproduce weopons as Germany is small country any damage due to airpower can have significant effect.

Germany had it’s highest industrial output during WW2 in October 1944, after two years of the Allied bombing campaign. The industrial output only really started to suffer when Germany was getting occupied, the bombing campaign had very little effect on the industry. The bombing campaign’s effect lay far more in keeping the Luftwaffe occupied and destroying POL.

IF you remove US-UK from the equation. Germany would have occupied the whole of USSR with in a month.

Uhhh… one month after the start of Operation Barbarossa, the Soviet Union still existed if you didn’t know. British and American help only started to pour in after about six months. Can’t stop showing ignorance, can you?

As it shown that USSR losses were far more despite the fact that German airpower was no where near to US calibre. Germany didnot even have aircraft carrier and most of there U boats were engaging US-UK supply lines.

As it is shown, German losses on the Eastern Front were far higher than on the Western front. And of course the U-boats were engaging UK/US supply lines: submarines aren’t of much use in tankbattles the likes of Kursk, and i doubt that U96 would have saved Stalingrad for Hitler even if it fired a torpedo into the Red October tractor factory :rolleyes:

A few other things about Yahoo’s percieved Russian inaptitude…
– An eight-bladed rotor on a helicopter (the Mi-26) after NASA had ‘proven’ that seven blades main rotor was the maximum number of blades possible.
– A gearbox able to put a counter-rotating prop on a 12.000hp engine. The US never managed to pull this off, in fact a number of projects got cancelled because such a gearbox could not be built (the B-35 for one).

Belyakov’s book isn’t about MAPO, it is about the designs of the MiG OKB. Duh.

I am not moderating in this thread at all, but yeah, that’s probably bias.

So you want me to prove a negative? Okay. Belyakov’s MiG-book mentions production and continued development of the MiG-17 (J-5), MiG-19 (J-6) and MiG-21F (J-7) in China. It doesn’t about the Ye-152A.

Crob,
Unless you really insist and want to spend way too much time and effort in making Flogger look even more obnoxiously ignorant, i suggest you leave him to his delusions. Since there is a spark of hope in this thread for it to get on track again (SOC and Sens and the Intake Issue) i’ll leave it at that, but the thought of locking has crossed my mind.

The Lampyridae (sometimes referred to as Firefly, but officially it had the Latin name) was not a ‘study’: it was ment to be a fully operational point-defense interceptor for head-on engagements. Apart from it’s obvious faceted LO design, it would also have been RAM-coated (the latter being quite easy really). From a frontal aspect, it’s radar cross section would appearantly have been about the size of a wasp or bee or something like that.

The project got canned because of external pressure and, later on, the end of the Cold War.

Anything will do for me now. Alcohol>4.5%, that is.

Cinay, La Chouffe, Orval, Chimay, a barrel of Bofferding…