The Key boards are not ACIG. That forum was, after some time playing around, set up as a large database where threads aren’t really archived, but kept alive with every new piece of information. It’s extremely convenient if you want to find some info on a certain topic: it’s more than likely that you will discover that the particulair topic you’re interested in is a separate thread at ACIG, and after having found that you’ll find a whole bunch of information. It’s organised much more as an information database rather than a discussion forum like this one here (not saying there are no debates at ACIG, far from it!).

I can understand the attitude some of ACIG’s people have when looking at this one, and i’m definately not blaming them. But i don’t think a comparison is really fair, simply because of the totally different ways these two boards are organised. I post a lot more here, but i’m pretty often at ACIG doing some (re-)searching.

And in case anyone remembers my prophecies that i would probably get struck by lightnin before getting elected moderator… not quite. But a lightning strike here on my flat did fry my DSL modem 😮 (the rest is fine though), i’ll be getting a replacement somewhere this week. But for now, i’m all humble on dial-up… 🙁

Realistic sound files? I don’t think your neighbours will approve, but then again i doubt your speakers will survive either.

Looks good.

Dirtyharry,
If you want to revive the Lavi-was-completely-indigenous vs. Lavi-was-basically-a-US-aircraft debate, there should be some info on it in the archives. While the Lavi concept initially did indeed call for a light, cheap, simple and indigenous attack jet to replace the Skyhawks (and appearantly later the Fougas/Tzukits in the training role), by the time the Lavi reached prototype stage it had become a whole lot heavier with by then a large part of the whole systems and research involved being American rather than Israeli.

There are some links inside those threads too, should make an interesting read.

You don’t need me to quote you all the articles that appeared since the mid 90′ in Janes, Aviation week and the rest of the good old guys.
The similarity between the J-10 and the Lavi is just a bit too great to be a coincidence.

Back then there were only vague pictures of J-10 models, nothing substantial to base any connections on except for a layout similarity. By now we do have detailed images of the J-10, but still nothing more than layout similarity. I am only asking you to back up your Lavi-ancestry claims, nothing more. Just like i backed up my claims that the Lavi was eventually a mostly American aircraft rather than an indigenous Israeli one 😉 Besides, i can equally argue that the Lavi was based on the Ye-8 (rather than on the F-16).

You know what, I was wrong to write probably.
And to your unhumble opinion, what is a good enough proof?

Well, i am pretty strict in this… but any admission, be that official or not, from either Israel or China (the latter being extremely unlikely of course) that Israel in any sort of way contributed to the design or development of the J-10. I want sources, not suggestions.

Escuincle,
could you please put something smaller-sized in your signature? We all love Admiral Akbar, but that’s just a bit too much.

I seriously doubt it. Interesting as it is, it’s too much an obscurity of aviation to warrant any serious sales. Even more so since it won’t be considered recommended reading by any military, which cuts a significant part of potential sales.

Also, with the recent IAPR article (nothing too exhaustive though) i think most enthusiasts are already served. Unfortunately.

Perhaps Americans got a separate squadron to overcome the language barrier :p ?