Incidentally has anyone ever gotten close enuf to the PLAAF MKK/SK/UBK on this board or anywhere? If not then its kinda ironic …….
You mean scratching-paint-in-the-nosegear-well close? :p
I didn’t pay too much attention to the fins then, but then again they are high enough on the airframe that even with my reasonable length i wouldn’t have been able to knock on them to see if there were metal or composite, nor to check if any fluid was gulping around inside.
Ah, Viggen-style landing gears.
Good excuse to get some colour in this thread, besides putting in pictures makes it a bit more interesting for those who can’t stand these gloating displays of trivia… lest they be converted, the more quizzes, partakers and quizmasters the merrier.
First obviously the Viggen.
Then the also mentioned Su-34.
The Mirage IV… oh no, it’s not, but still a nice nostalgic pic anyway.
Does the MiG-31 count? It’s a twin-wheel bogie, but with the wheels offset.
Avro Canada CF-105 Arrow
BAC TSR-2
Cool! And a tough one too… this is going to take a while.
#2 — Where is the final assembly of the F/A-22A taking place?
Marietta, Georgia.
#3 — Who was the first woman to break the sound barrier? Pilotesse, date, location, aircraft
That would be Jackie Cochran in a Canadair-built Sabre. It was either a full-standard F-86E (an F-86E-6-CAN) or a real Canadair Sabre Mk.2/4. Date was May 18th 1956, location was Edwards AFB.
First CuperConic Coviet Pilotess was Olga Samshchikova, but i couldn’t find a date to attach to her. She did fly MiG-19s in her testpilot career, so i think she shouldn’t have been too long after ms. Cochran. Unfortunately, the women-in-aviation website is a bit weary of Russian aviation.
#4 — We know about the first British jet landing aboard an aircraft carrier, but about the first carrier landing of an U.S. jet? Name pilot, date, aircraft, vessel
Aircraft: XFD-1 BuNo 48236, the second prototype of the aircraft which entered service as the FH-1 Phantom.
Pilot: Lt. Cmdr. James Davidson
Carrier: USS Franklin D. Roosevelt
Date: July 21st, 1946
#5 — What was the last manned piston-engine twin in service with the U.S. Navy? What was its job? Where was it based and when was it retired?
I think they could still have twin-pistons, or at least they have been retired only a few years ago.
At least one U-8F (Beech 65 Queen Air, two O-480-3s) could well still fly with the former NSWC, BuNo 161627. An out-of-sequence 103102 also has been reported for another NSWC U-8F. Don’t know if this/these have actually been retired or not.
Then there were two C-28s, perhaps better known under their civilian name as Cessna 404s, with two Teledyne Continental GTSIO-520-M flat-six pistons each. Both are now civilianised to the US border patrol, they served with the NSWC in their Navy days.
#6 — What was the last manned piston-engine “quad” in service with the U.S. Navy? aircraft, unit, date of retirement
That should be a bit longer ago. I think it was NC-121K BuNo 141292/GD-12 with VAQ-33 flying from NAS Key West. It made it’s last flight to it’s preservation home at Florence, SC on June 25th 1982. Unfortunately this aircraft was badly damaged in a fire in the late 1990s and has now been scrapped.
#7 — Name at least two supersonic jets with 2wheel tandem main landing gear.
Yak-27, Yak-28, Vautour (supersonic in a dive), Myasishchev M-50 Bounder. Can’t let the latter go without a pic, obviously.
#8 — Name at least one modular cargo plane that actually flew.
Fairchild XC-120 Packplane.
#9 — Name the dates of the closure of the USAF’s North African Bases.
Wheelus AFB, Lybia: June 11, 1970. Now Okba bin Nafi airbase and recently also doubling as Methaga regional airport.
Nouasseur AB, Morocco.
Sidi Slimane AB, Morocco.
Benguerir AB, Morocco, all three vacated by 1963.
#10 — On Thanksgiving eve of 1971 two F-106A of the 318th FIS scrambled from McChord AFB. Why?
Great story! A Boeing 727 had been hijacked by a certain “D.B. Cooper”, and after landing he arranged to free the passengers in exchange for 200.000 US$ and parachutes. Then he let the aircraft take off again, to Mexico – flying low, slow, with 15deg flaps, the gear down and the rear entrance door open. Somewhere during the flight he parachuted out with the money. The F-106es were scrambled to track the 727 and watch if the hijacker jumped, but they flew too far from the airliner to actually see it happen. “Cooper” was never caught, although a bit of the money was found in 1980 in Canada.
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/D.%20B.%20Cooper
Can’t help but admire the man!
#11 — No other western fighter jet carried as many different visually distinguishable “noses” during their life as the McDonnell Douglas FH-1/F-4. Name the number of noses and if you’re really good name all the versions. (Hint: Number is between 15 and 20)
Whoa…

More noses than i actually want to count…
#12 — A quite fascinating story: The (at one time in its life) three engined F-106B, the last manned F-106 to fly. That particular aircraft was used for five R&D projects. What were those? When was its last flight?[/QUOTE]
It was one of NASA’s NF-106Bs. They had N816NA ex N616NA ex 57-2516 and and N607NA ex 57-2507.
N616NA was fitted with two extra engines under the wings for some time. Tests done with 616/816 i can find were:
Are you 57-2516 one undertook five different test programs? I count three or four, but there were one or two (land and sea scanning trials, and after being cut in half for windtunnel aero work) for 607…
Nothing yet on #1, but will dig more!
The Wasp is a bit weird. XT425 was a Royal Navy machine which crashed within two years. It was delivered in March 1965, written off in October 1966 when it ditched in the sea off Portland when flying with 829 sqn.
The real M499-07 was XT426 which entered Malaysian service in 1992. A mispaint perhaps?
Here’s a link: http://www.helis.com/database/go/westland_wasp.php
Here is a link with a drawing and a photo of an ‘Iraqi’ Bf110. They were actually regular Luftwaffe aircraft from 4. / ZG76 flown by German pilots, the Iraqi markings were there for political reasons. And because they are cool, obviously.
http://www.pilotenbunker.de/Nachtjaeger/Luftwaffe/Drewes_Martin/drewes.htm
More comments…
That ‘Saudi F-5E’ is actually an Iranian one.
01375 = 74-1375, del to Iran.
The IRIAF one shows a pic taken before the revolution (and even before delivery), so it’s an IIAF one, not IRIAF. Imperial Iranian AF versus Islamic Republic of Iran AF.
Did a bit of googling on the subject, and i couldn’t find anything substantial about QF-16s. Lockheed appearantly considered a rework program according to an 1997 (!) issue of CodeOne magazine, but that’s basically it. Nothing that i could find on BAe Systems (the ex-Flight Systems and ex-Tracor company) either. With the QF-4 destined to soldier on until 2008, there still is some time left.
As a shocking alternative, it is appearantly seriously considered to buy second-hand MiG-29s…. http://www.vectorsite.net/twuav1.html
Are you sure? I can’t find it now, but i remember a study back in the early 1990s found the F-16 to be unsuitable for drone-conversions. The landing gear was appearantly considered too flimsy (no problem risking a pilot flying the Lawndart of course), but it’s been a while.
But BAe is a logical company to convert Lawndarts. Don’t forget that Flight Systems at Mojave, which also is responsible for the QF-100, QF-106 and QF-4 conversions, has been taken over by BAe a number of years back. It’s the same company as ever, but only under a ‘new’ name. Not that there is too much competition. I think Sperry is out of the business (they made the PQM-102 out of F-102s), other US and Canada-based companies only have experience with helos, and i doubt Russian ‘companies’/ARZs (IIRC the M-21 conversions were done by the 121ARZ rework plant at Kubinka) were considered at all.
Yeah, most people i know got an Indian name after seeing Dances with Wolves.
Sleeping in Cinema, Yawning at Theatre, Bored at Movies, Annoyed by Kevin and Misbehaving in Public.
“Now go away, or i will taunt you again!
You silly English king…”
Now it’s really time to start booking a trip… i’m sure Jaap will be seeing this too. Perhaps a good idea to publish this pic in Scramble? It should be inspirational to some people, it’s about time that a real recon-trip through the PRC is made, after the occasional spotting-stops made so far.
Is it possible already for foreigners to rent a car in China? If not, there still is the moped-plan… damn, i wanna be i’m trip-fähig again!
Thanks Kenneth, i couldn’t remember how that Seastar looked back then. Good to know it’s alive as well.
I think the best way to describe the guy in the back of a tandem twin-seat combat jet is GIB – or Guy In Back. The name they get is usually dependent on service and/or the aircraft he/she (the latter of course a Gal In Back, still GIB 😉 ) flies in. Names like Navigator, WSO (Weapon Systems Officer), RIO (Radar Intercept Officer)… or just Shturman’ for a Russian aircraft, this being their word for navigator.
As for the aircraft being flyable from the rear cockpit, again this depends. Sometimes it is possible and are controls fitted to the rear cockpit , sometimes there aren’t. For USAF twins it’s normal nowadays to have double controls like in the F-15E or in their variants of the Phantom. I think France has chosen this path too, with both the M2K D/N and the twin-seat Rafales having sticks and throttle in the back. Aircraft like the Tornado, Buccaneer and Navy variants of the F-4 only had a stick up front. In the Buccaneer’s case, there wasn’t even a dedicated twin-stick trainer variant as there is for the Tornado.
Woodbridge and Ben****ers… Yes?
Mel Gibson sexing things up?
Aha! So that’s what happened to his musical career after his sex change from Debbie to Mel, and after breaking up with his identical twin sister Kim!
He joined Color me Badd!
The guy on the right is obviously Mel Gibson.