Uhh… somewhere earlier in this thread the PAF’s successes and alleged successes over it’s North-Western border throughout the 1980s were suddenly linked with it’s feats versus India.
Pot, meet kettle. Kettle, meet pot. (i’m sure this will brand me a racist again…)
Originally posted by Vympel
What I don’t understand is the designation system … AIM-120A, AIM-120B, AIM-120C, then all of a sudden it’s AIM-120C-4, AIM-120C-5, AIM-120C-6, AIM-120C-7 …
That’s part of the unsubtle ploy of killing the Mission Designator System. Appearantly the US no longer likes to use the most comprehensive and easy-to-use designator system, and kills it of by using dozens and dozens of new designations not fitting in.
Originally posted by flex297
That is the strangest looking Albatros I have ever seen. Someway the light conditions make it appear like some kind of Taiwanese AT-3.
There is some lighting on the floor which might confuse you a little, but there are definately and unmistakably two L39s there. The rear one has it’s canopy open, the one up front doesn’t. I’ve (somewhat) drawn profiles over the pic, perhaps you can see it better now.
Nah, ‘our’ side is the not-Ausländer side :rolleyes:
Nah, ‘our’ side is the not-Ausländer side :rolleyes:
Two L39s actually. And the MiG-21s are MONGOLs.
Re: Thud in Europe
Originally posted by Mark2
So when was the last Thud deployement to Europe???
A guess.. early 80s to Aalborg from Hill??Mark
Almost… it was to Skrydstrup! From the excellent site mentioned above:
CORONET RUDDER (Oksboel ’81) – Skrydstrup AB (Denmark)
15 AUGUST – 29 AUGUST 1981
301 TFW (508 TFG)/466 TFS (Hill AFB, Air Force Reserve)
F-105D/F (18)
Originally posted by SOC
The difference here is that this one will actually be able to operate from a carrier deck just fine 😀
Who said history has never taught us anything?
Originally posted by Sauron
Most if not all military programs fall behind schedule and come in over budget. Is this really a big shock to anyone except to the odd reporter?
Considering the JSF program was specifically set up with a (relatively) low-cost unit price of the aircraft, the whole program slowly turning into a pig should only be a shock to those who believed the original BS concerning the project.
But i don’t think anyone who remembers a certain other ‘joint’ combat jet from the 1960s would be surprised. Aardpiglet, here you come!
Add to the comparison that the German F-4F’s are in service almost a decade longer (at least the RF-4E’s were, but those aren’t included otherwise it would make the Lawndart look even worse)… On the other hand, i do think that Phantoms tend to go u/s just before takeoff more often than those ugly suckbellies.
So you’ve just barely missed those B-17 and B-24 deployments then 😉 Ah well, i am getting ‘that look’ from younger colleagues of ours nowadays too… and then i’m just talking about Spangdahlem F-4E’s (a handful) and Dutch NF-5s…
…God saves!
…God saves!
Originally posted by GarryB
Just wondering which Chinese fighters (apart from licence built Su-27s) have not got this heavy canopy framing?
The J-12 had a one-piece windscreen, the FC-1, the FTC-2000, the J-10…
Originally posted by SOC
Last one, an AIR-2 underneath the left wing of an F-89J. When it was determined that AIM-4s didn’t appreciate external carriage, the F-89J stopped carrying them and employed two AIR-2s as its only armament-the world’s only all nuke-armed fighter 😎
Not as cool as the internal bays for the AIM-4 on the F-89H…