You’re right of course. I’ll probably be taking a look at the book in a few weeks, but i have to restrain myself since the particulair aviation bookstore here in the south of the Netherlands tends to suck my wallet empty in no time. And it’s impossible to resist if your sister lives five minutes from that shop…
Iraq traditionally has two-way HASes…
Here is an incredibly poor/post-modern artistical/hilarious impression by me on the borders of the hardened surfaces and the barren sand.
Edit: nice to have the MiG-25 pic close to a drawing of the panel lines as well, for those who want to check.
I have only seen a few parts of the Aerofax MiG-19 book yet, so i could well be wrong. I would be surprised however if they got the J-6A/B/C and J-6I/II/III/IV/Xin right, especially since the J-6C for example is NOT equal to the J-6III. The Chinese really messed up their Farmers during the Cultural Revolution (yes, that is a pun 😉 ), including the designations: using them twice, not issuing designations to new variants… Absolutely terrible. Yefim Gordon did both the WoF and the Aerofax, but what he did re the J-6 in WoF doesn’t give me high hopes for the Aerofax book.
Well, Odd Rods have traditionally been kept on export airframes and they are in fact the only (and still not even 100% reliable) means to tell the difference between a Su-25 and a Su-25K. In Russia (and the Soviet Union), Odd Rods have been on the way out at least since the mid-1980s.
China’s Su-30MKKs are Odd Rodded too.
There was a decent article in one of the earlier Wings of Fame, and there is a good Aerofax book, although i think both have some mistakes concerning Chinese variants.
Re: Re: Cope India – 2004
Originally posted by Flanker_man
I never noticed before – but that Su-30K has Odd-Rods IFF aerials under the nose.Does the IAF use the Russian IFF system ???
And not just a Russian IFF system, but an OLD Russian IFF system. Aerospacetech/Overscan will definately know better, but i thought the old SRO-1 systems had the Odd Rods. Newer SRO-2 Khrom-Nikel IFF sets have a small blade antenna.
Well noticed by the way, Ken. Modelling-trained eyesight 😉
Originally posted by SOC
The wreckage is obviously sitting to the rear of a HAS or revetment, you can see it to the right in the picture, and is clearly near the perimeter fenceline. Are the taxiways and whatnot paved? No doubt. Is this poor FOXBAT sitting on one? I don’t think so.
Nope, i think you can see the edges of the hardened surface of the dispersal in the lower left corner of the pic, above the nosecone. It was definately on a hardened surface.
And it’s definately a PD model, i’ve added a blown-up detail of a 1980 MiG-25PDS conversion. It matches 🙂
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Here’s one 😀
It’s a shame the U-2 (an old one, not of the U-2R/TR-1/U-2S breed) in the museum at Duxford was demodified from a two-seater. 56-6692 used to be an instructional airframe at Abingdon, after being the first two-seater conversion.
Here it is as it was when new…
Here as the twin-stick, SOC might remember it like this:
And here it is nowadays crammed up in the American Air Museum at Duxford.
The Greeks still have a bunch of them at Elefsis. They were operational only ten years ago, i’m actually a bit surprised these haven’t showed up on the private markets yet.
The whole USAF-goes-jump jet to me looks an awful lot like a ploy to keep the STOVL F-35 alive. With the Marines air squadrons integrating more and more with the Navy, i’m not so sure if the eventual requirement for those JSFs (next to the handful of Royal Navy jumpJSFs) would in the end be worth the effort. Now if the USAF goes for this variant too, it’s future seems a lot more certain.
And yes, i smell the same Lockheed-lobby as the one which finally got the USAF to adopt the FB-22 🙂
No victories no glories
Just dumbasses. :rolleyes:
Do you really think that a country which spent billions on airbases didn’t pave their dispersals and reventments? Of course that Foxbat was on concrete. Dusty, and possibly even camouflaged, but the surface is definately hardened. There was quite a bit of force on it regardless of the direct fuse of the bomb (500lbs is my uneducated guess too – anything heavier would have left less Foxbat), and sand would definately have been blown away much more than just the black ‘scratchmarks’ you see here.
Also, the bomb would have been fused (and gone off) on the MiG-25, not on the ground. The blast of the explosion sadly was absorbed by the steel bathtub, not the concrete below it.
Bwaaa… panel/part numbers, no c/ns…