RE: November 10, 1938

They do, it’s all over the wires.

The BM is no longer allowed to ask an entrance fee for it’s permanent expositions. Yet, they can ask entrances for temporary exhibitions. They hope to be able to give the EM to the Athens historical museum, and make arrangements for Greek collections to rotate through the BM. For these latter, the BM can ask an entrance fee and hence do something about it’s poor financial situation. They are now waiting for a reply from Athens (but this will probably take a year or so }> ).

Surprised you didn’t know that.

As for the sarcasm: sorry, i didn’t get it. I’m quite humourless when people start babbling over Chinese supremacy, Grossdeutschland, non-Islamic infidels or Greater Greece. Better put a smiley icon with it next time 😉

RE: Diplomacy game

Count me in as Russia!

RE: November 10, 1938

Eastern Turkey is Greece? Well, indeed, so is Afghanistan. And Syria. While Egypt is British, Crete German, the Netherlands Spanish, Belarus is Lithuanian, Poland is Swedish, Slovakia is Austrian, Laos is French, the Virgin Islands are Danish and Eastern New Guinea is German.

Ad0nis, i know Western Turkey used to be part of the Hellenic culture. It isn´t anymore, so cut that crap. Borders change, peoples move, and at some stage you better learn to live with that. So stop living in the past, and be happy that the British Museum wants to get rid of the Elgin marbles.

I´m bored indeed… by this quiz.

I guess you better take that tour Moggy! 24 out of 24 here too, also with the ´very hard´ level like Frank. Although i wonder what ´easy´ would be in this test.

There are mistakes in it too. The ´Mirage F1´ is actually the Mirage F2 prototype…

RE: November 10, 1938

I never had to bribe a Turk, if that’s what you’re suggesting. I know their government is not your perfect democracy, i know their economy is in shambles (mind you that the Greek economy wasn’t much better before it joined the EU), and there are plenty of other negative sides i can think of when it comes to Turkey.

But my comment was made as a reaction to Icarus’ statement on which country to prefer as a traveller. It’s definately Turkey for me, no matter how beautiful Greece is.

You wouldn’t believe the crap some Greek people told me about Turkey when i was at Samos, telling me how expensive and criminal and boring and dangerous it would be for me to go to Turkey… You would be surprised if you saw the looks on their faces when i told them that was just where i came from, and exactly where i would go back to.

Again, this is not ment to be flaming (of course i met terrible jerks in Turkey and i met wonderful people in Greece), but just a personal observation. Apologies to Jeuneturk if you do consider this thread to be spoiled – perhaps it might comfort you that i took the extended tour at Dolmabahce palace.

RE: Whats been your fav 10 songs of this year so far?

tATu is cool! Just got the album – the songs in Russian (Ya soshlu s uma is the Russian version of All the things she said) are absolutely great!

Not for those with a disliking for high-pitched voices though.

RE: November 10, 1938

>You really wanna live in Turkey? Where people cannot finds
>jobs. Where the military rules. Where there is internal
>ethnic strife. Where personal freedoms are curtailed. I’m
>sure their vacation spots are nice, but experiencing tourist
>areas and living there are two different things.

Have you travelled both, Icarus? I mean both in and out of the tourist areas. While Turkey is indeed visibly poorer than Greece, it is also much less littered (i´m not talking invisible pollution here, just the basic stuff people throw around), has far friendlier policemen, and IMHO made a much more open, friendly impression than Greece. Especially outside the tourist areas.

And you won´t believe it, but apart from Istanbul, Turkish drivers are far more capable of holding a steering wheel than your average Greek driver. Traffic in Greece is definately hell, unless you want to surpass your own limits of antisocial behaviour of course.

Nothing personal, just some observations.

RE: What are your most favourite aviation museums?

For aircraft types it’s Monino for me: ‘100’, M50, VVA-14, Yak-36 and a whole bunch of non-prototypes. Although the prototype collection at Le Bourget (and it’s excellent storage compound across the airfield) is impressive.

For atmosphere: the Lodz-museum before it was sanitized. It was simply a whole bunch of Lims and Migs thrown together: if you are going to neglect your collection, better make it part of the scenery!

For obscurity: Rostov-na-Donu. Five aircraft collecting milldew at a market place between huge flatblocks. Amongst these the only known surviving Yak-28P.

For exquisit looking collection: Duxford (the aircraft inside of course), and the British variant of Lodz: Lasham!