I know very well that Udaloys are ASW vessels I am not dump:mad: But as I said before there is no vessel with AAW capability. It is the same as a Nimitz class carrier would be escorted only by Knox ASW frigates or Spruance class DDs. I want to ask why the CbG doesnt have even a single sovremmenyy. The only AAW protection of the battle group is the Kinzal SA n-9 missile system. Is the same thing as the US typical CbG was protected only from sea sparrow missiles in MK-29 launchers. Do you imagine the US carrier group without SM2/3 missiles? As for Admiral Nakhimov I want to ask if anybody knows what kind of new missiles will carry if finally be modernized, and when will renter in service.

Yeah I know you are not ‘dump’:D I was under the impression that a Slava was going to meet the group in the med thus providing long range AAW cover.

To brand me as a America hater says more about your mental state, than my relations to americans.

No it perfectly sums you up.

With respect to thrust management:
1-D = able to vary thrust along the engine axis from -XX% to +100%
2-D = adds pitch vectoring to 1-D definition above (e.g. F-22)
3-D = adds yaw vectoring to 2-D definition above (e.g. Su-30MKI)

djcross, hanks for that, I am sure that is the official system but I prefer to think of the MKI’s method as a sort of hybrid as it is clearly distinct from the Su-35 and Mig-35 but thats just me.;)

The Rearward firing AA-11 was just a standard AA-11 fitted on a special backward facing pylon. They also tested R-27s but of course the R-27s failed. The R-27s have big fins to help stabilise them and keep the nose pointed at the target during flight. However fired backwards as the missile goes through the period of zero flight speed as it moves from flying backwards at launch to when it is accelerating towards the target at speed the large fins lost control and the nose dropped and target lock was lost.

With the standard model Archer with thrust vectoring the nose did not drop and lock was maintained.

Apart for a light aerodynamic fairing to cover the forward facing tail of the standard R-73 no other alteration was required to the basic missile to use it in the rear firing mode. All that was needed was a minor change to tell the missile it was facing rearwards and to take cues from a rearward facing sensor for finding its target.

Operational systems on Russian aircraft are secret. information black hole = secret.

That post answers neither of the questions.

What was Israeli reaction to recent NIE on Iranian nuclear programme?

It just strikes me as rather odd that Israelis strike a nuclear facility in Syria, and then let Syrians have time to cover the evidence. I mean Israel is the same country which was beating drums about Saddam’s WMDs, has strong links with so many hard-core neocons, and has been threatning Iran with military action over its nuclear programme.

Prove that it was a nulcear facility indeed.

Well it was Syrians who said “The Israeli enemy aircraft infiltrated into the Arab Syrian territory through the northern border, coming from the Mediterranean heading toward the eastern region, breaking the sound barrier,”. In comparison, Israelis simply kept their mouths shut after a successful strike on a nuclear facility???

Last time i checked, Syria was no democracy. I can only assume it wouldn’t be all that difficult for govt to suppress such news had it not wanted it to be published. With regard to dropping the tanks, i thought that happened over Turkish lands???

With regard to my brightness, i may not be so. But one thing i have in abundance is my manners for a civilised discussion:)

With all due respect, i choose not to heed this advice.:)

Same old same old, I have provided the most plausible scenario and you have provided nothing. So again I tell you to actually produce something to counter it rather than going over things I have already shown you to be wrong about.

For instance, learn the difference fuel tanks and ordnance then go and read my previous posts to get the answer about the fuel tanks, already discussed and already answered like everything else you keep pointlessly typing about.:rolleyes:

The Chinese ASAT missile was launched on a predetermined path that was timed to coincide with another known path of one of its abandoned satellites.

The following is from a news report :-

The kinetic kill mechanism ensures that a killer rocket crashes head-on into a target moving at 28,000 km/hr. It adds its own speed to impact, creating a hypersonic shock wave that shreds the target into metallic confetti. The killer is positioned in the collision course by tracking the target with the help of radars and other monitoring equipment.

“We use same type of calculations before every satellite is launched. This is done to position our satellite in a crowded space without causing inconvenience to other vehicles using the same area. The same method can be used to position a killer vehicle near a target to destroy it,” top ISRO sources said.

In its space war exercise, China used similar methods to pinpoint the target and launched the killer using a ballistic missile before homing it into it. “With the existing technology India can also perfect this mechanism within no time. But we believe that space must be kept out of military dreams,” sources said.

Reference :

Satellite killer technology within reach

Which still means that it was guided, what do you think they just point it upwards and let it go.:rolleyes:

Come on sealordlawrence, you should be proud that i am paying close attention to your alternatives:) . Although your whole theroy-to which you refer to as highly viable scenario- is based on mere speculations/suggestions put together, have i anywehere referred to it as ‘you making claims’? At the end of the day, it’s a theory…isn’t it? And if so, i guess i can ask all the questions i want…till it become an established claim.:)

OK…so it was in Turkish interest??? The article suggesting Turkish military intelligence’s involvement in this whole thing quite clrealy implies that they did so without Turkish Establishment’s prior knowlege, i.e. sending message. I would assume Turkish govt would have taken this as a very serious threat to the whole establishment, and would have been genuinely upset with the Israeli govt for their involvement with Turkish military without Turkish establishment’s prior knowledge.

Over the years we have heard a lot about Syrian involvement in uncoventional weapons’ programmes, although mainly biological weapons and not as much about nuclear stuff. Therefore, i find it quite strange that it was Syrians who came out with the whole story bragging about their AD system when their nuclear facility had just been bombed. This was followed by Turkish, and Israelis only reacted after days. Just imagine Syrian nuclear facility being bombed, and its Syrians making noises (attracting world’s attention) yet Israelis stay quite…somehow it does not make perfect sense. Later reports suggested that Syria had covered the evidence since the initial bombing. May be its just me, but why did Syrians have to open their big mouths so soon when they could have used that time to hide the evidence in the first place, and why did Israelis allowed them so much time to do so?

Israel is trying in its earnest to convince the rest of the world that Iran is a much bigger threat to their existence as well as international peace than ROW appears to believe. They attacked a Syrian nuclear facility, of which no one else seems to have had any knoweldge of (???). Just imagine the international hoo haa and pressure on Syria. Israeli intelligence’s reputation would have had a massive boost if this was proven to be a nuclear facility. Yet Israel decided to give Syria so much time to cover evidence. Why? Did Israelis even know what were they attacking when they struck???

its your theory sealordlawrence. And whether they are simple or naive, i’ll take the liberty and ask you the questions.:)

Israel is not trying to do anything ‘to convince the world of the Iranian threat’ so stop trying to invent a conspiracy becouse there is not one. Just another case of you making yourself look ridiculous and lying.

Of course Israel would have known what they were attacking, just another stupid comment from you.:rolleyes:

How can you not understand something so simple as the Turkey issue, sure they may have dissaproved of their airspace being violated but that would certainly be outweighed by keeping Syria fee of nuclear weapons, stop talking about this issue unless you can actually show that Turkey was genuinely angry about it. The fact that you use the word bragging just shows how foolish you are, what do the Syrians have to brag about? There aispace was penetrated by their mortal enemy who was then able to escape safely without any losses, hardly worthy of a medal is it?:rolleyes:

It does not make perfect sense to you becouse you are clearly not very bright. The Syrians would have had no option but to talk, the dropping of the fuel tanks and the observations by its own citizens gave them no choice.

Again I advise you to stop posting as you have nothing to say and just continue to embarrass yourself with your own ignorance.