Apologies if my commenting offends or irritates anyone, but:
RAAF Aardvarks (Ozvarks?) do carry AGM-84s. And I believe the Tu-22M did perform some bombing runs in Afghanistan, but I don’t think they were at low-level.
Correct me if I am wrong but the Tu-22M was intended to be used as a low level penetrator and there were exercises in the late eighties to that effect? Obviously you know more than me on this issue but I am currently having to re-familiarise myself with all things Russian and this came up in my reading (I cant remember the source but I will hunt it out tomorrow).
Rick, just a quick reply before I will do a more detailed one later,
Remember that the Sverdlovs dont start entering service until the early 1950s, thus they are not properly responded to until then. The RN’s dedicated new build cruisers are a constant theme until they are finally killed in 1957, they were in the 1945 estimates too.;) I will give more detail later!
The ten Didos were not far short of being a waste of space and only under the most favorable of circumstances could they be expected to stand up against a Sverdlov, in reality they could at best be used as destroyer killers. Of the 6inch cruisers the majority were down to just 9 guns, a 25% reduction over their original design and 25% down on the Sverdlovs. Apparently there was a study at one point into converting all the colony class ships and onwards to the Tiger standard that would have provided 15 ships capable of Sverdlov killing (of course this never happened and only Tiger, Lion and Blake were completed to this standard). However the British produce two potential panaceas (neither of which actually enter service). One Blue Slug, a nuclear armed surface to surface version of sea slug, should have given the county class destroyers the capability to take out a Sverdlov. Green Cheese/Green Flash launched from the Buccaneer should have been similarly effective.
On the other hand the USN heavy cruisers were more than capable of dealing with the Soviet 6inchers.
CAESAR is currently only in prototype form, there is a big difference between fully developed radar and prototype.
This is only a prototype too.
Courtesy of TangoIII in the news thread, basically lists all the current issues with the LCA saga,
http://www.hindu.com/2007/12/01/stories/2007120156141600.htm
Apologies if my commenting offends or irritates anyone, but:
Ok SOC I gotta ask what is with this very classy and polite little epithet, I assume that I am missing something somewhere?:confused:
Yeah, just because the party called the communist party is in power in China and there are no opposition partys or free general elections I just assume it is communism. Sounds like American democracy right there.
You have no idea what you are ranting about, China communist hahaha. I could call a pig a cow but it wouldnt make it so.:D :rolleyes:
Yeah, just because the party called the communist party is in power in China and there are no opposition partys or free general elections I just assume it is communism. Sounds like American democracy right there.
You have no idea what you are ranting about, China communist hahaha. I could call a pig a cow but it wouldnt make it so.:D :rolleyes:
Could this be put into the Eurofighter?
Why? Caesar is being developed for the Typhoon.
Its all part of the funding battle that is going on at the moment. A defence white paper is due in the spring and in the mean time the three services will fight each other in atrociously bloody battles and this is how it will manifest itself in the press.;)
rick, I agree entirely.
The point of the Alaska’s and the Iowas is that they exist and could have been put back into service if required. Their existence would have made the Stalingrads lives very difficult.
The issue for the RN is the appalling state of its cruiser force. It suffered a very high rate of attrition during the war and for the mos part those ships that did survive would have been unable to stand up to the new Soviet light cruisers.
Thats one of the books I really would like to get my hands on…but unfortunetly those type of books are extremely hard to obtain from here:(
You should be able to just order it of Amazon.:confused: It is a truly great read.
“‘Stalin’s Ocean-Going Fleet: Soviet Naval Strategy and Shipbuilding Programs, 1935-1953’ by J. Rohwer and M. Monakov.”
Thanks for that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rick
No problem at all.
I should just point out that the reason I am interested in RN response is becouse the RN actually has to respond. The USN on the other hand comes out of the WW2 in a very good state with a powerful fleet of very capable heavy cruisers, the four Iowas and the Alaskas.Nothing in Stalins naval revival really responds to these ships in a viable way.
The best source that I have come across so far is ‘Stalin’s Ocean-Going Fleet: Soviet Naval Strategy and Shipbuilding Programs, 1935-1953’ by J. Rohwer and M. Monakov.
It covers pretty much every program and puts it in its political and doctrinal context, it is a truly brilliant work and probably deserves to stand next to Eric Groves ‘Vanguard to Trident’, indeed reading the two together you get a real feel of what was going on at the time.
350 million vs `140million does not even matter in this game nor that ecoomic strenght (that needs outside legs). the point is who can make life more miserable so other side will never pick up a fight. UK/France/Germany has no capacity to transport huge armies and sustain in outside theater (when there economic strenght will melt with energy/trade freeze). u need very different kind of military capability
Your hilarious.:rolleyes: