Agreed……….Of course she was a Aircraft Carrier from the start. The ex-Gorshkov/Vikramadity was originally Missile Crusier/Helo Carrier. So, her conversion is more like a Battleship/Battle Cruiser converted to a Carrier. With the WWII Lexington/Saratoga Class coming to mind. Regardless, a very complex and risky project. Which, many warned of the possible pitfalls…..:eek:
Gorshkov did however have most of the trappings of a carrier, hangar deck etc. Furthermore the Lexington’s were incomplete Hulls whos design was modified during construction.;)
“And yes, the Webmaster does manually approve new accounts.”
Including reactivating the accounts of those guilty of a personal attack which was discriminatory, inflammatory and could easily have been construed as threatening behaviour.
Other people have been banned for much less.
Bitter? Moi?
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kev35
+1 on that.
“And yes, the Webmaster does manually approve new accounts.”
Including reactivating the accounts of those guilty of a personal attack which was discriminatory, inflammatory and could easily have been construed as threatening behaviour.
Other people have been banned for much less.
Bitter? Moi?
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kev35
+1 on that.
A very good point……….Yet, can you think of any recent conversion on the scale of the Gorshkov/Vikramadity?
Nothing recent comes to mind at all. However the reconstruction of the RN WW2 carrier HMS Victorious from 1950-58 is probably the closest thing that has happened. She was effectively completely re-built from the hangar deck up and on completion was regarded as the most modern carrier in the world.
So why the frig have the ‘Soviets’ started doing this again, they did it in July, whats the point, well I know why, think Putin, think Stalin, he even looks the part, communism plus mafia is a hard act to deal with.
Well they have to spend there easily earned energy dollars somehow. Russia is kind of like a terminally ill person who just won the lottery. They are sitting on top vast riches of natural resources yet their population is aging and plummeting, thus they may as well spend the money whilst there are still people left to do it.:D
Frankly the boom does not look like it could carry a radar at all, compare it to the boom on the Su-34 which is huge…………when its not a gaffer taped up piece of drain pipe.:D
SeeLordLawrence I am an American,and I don’t love Pravda as you
suggested but I always tell the truth nothing but the truth.
As long as you believe in your head that its the truth its all that matters.:p :rolleyes:
F.Y.I. Not to split hairs but the Viraat (ex-Hermes) was laid down in “1944” 😎
Correct, she was launched in 1953. She has also had a lot of refits and reconstructions. If you want to know which other countries would attempt such a rebuild as is happening to the Gorshkov just look at the history of the RN’s post war/wartime carriers.:eek:
The former USSR under Gorbachev voluntarily stop the cold war and allowed the republics to find their own fate—Yeltsin put the finish torches to it. That actually disorganized Russia the center that held them together.
Imagine the USSR didn’t pull out of Eastern Europe and were still there could the West have done that? — Scared for almost 60 years and lived with the fear for so long. Remember always the USSR didn’t dissolve through conquest but through the goodwill and a God sent saviour one in Gorbachev to save the world from cataclysism and Armagedom. The west should be grateful and stop being arrogant of their “superiority and victory complex”.
You really do love Pravda dont you!:p
Is the photo of the EF-2000 Typhoon intercepting the Russian BEAR for real, or is it Photoshop?
The reason that I ask, is due to the fact that the so-called ‘Russian BEAR still has the old Soviet red star on its tail?
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Pioneer
The red star is still used/ was re-adopted by the Russian armed forces.
Agreed. NSM looks very good. Almost the same range as the bigger air-breathing anti-ship/land attack missiles, but smaller, therefore able to be carried by a wider variety of platforms, in greater numbers. It might still be too heavy for Future Lynx, but if possible, I’d like to see it carried. And certainly on Merlin, Nimrod, & F-35B.
Another problem with the F-35B, it will be unable to carry the NSM internally, unlike the C variant which will be able to carry it internally.;)
I just saw the BBC news and according to the correspondent the RAF will use these pictures to justify the Typhoon………….It might be time to hide the ones of Lightnings and Phantoms doing the same job if thats the plan.:D
not really boring, but you have to have a good eye to spot all the new “bumps” and protrusions. There are lots of of new electronic goodies on this thing. I dont pretend to recognize half the little things protruding from the airframe.
You do have a point there, we need to make a fairly in depth analysis before we make any conclusions.
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Now thats what im talking about, a 1980’s design intercepting a 1940’s design.:D
I believe that the contract for the frigates included upgrades. So if Taiwan wanted to upgrade her fleet of frigates with the 16-cell MICA VL launcher then that would be looked at as an upgrade and would fall under the original contract.
A TC-2 vertical launch system would be nice but it would take too long to build a vertical launch system and modify the missile for use on ships. Since the MICA is already in service with Taiwan and is a very modern missile I believe Taiwan should upgrade her fleet with this missile and ditch the Chaparral systems.
Depends how the contract is written, even then the french could still refuse.