None of the current permanent members will allow any new permanent members to have the power of veto-period. The secretary general as well as other key groups and people with in the UN are also opposed to the extension of the power of veto. Its not going to happen.

Rafale is catapult launched.

It has supposedly been studied to fit the Astutes with four Trident type tubes to allow them to carry the Tomahawk VLS version but I doubt anything will come of it.

Sounds goog for the Russians, Particuarly Mig. The most interesting thing for me is the Eritrean Mig-29SMT’s I wonder whether they are SMT1’s or SMT2’s. Either way the Eritreans are doing their best at keeping good planes in their airfoce, from what I can make out they have 14 Mig-29s and 6 Su-27s. I wonder what ethiopia is doing to keep up?

Combined with the four 052s and soon to be four Sovremennys the chinese are aquiring quite a powerfull destroyer fleet!!!

Pointless thread by someone with an obvious agenda. Its hard enough to get info on the ships the chinese have now let alone the ones they will have in ten years time.

I think they died sometime around 2003 when a certain middle eastern country was invaded.

There was a Rumour that one of the Swiftsure class boats still has the marks on her Hull where she ran into the propeller or s Soviet Sub, and I have heard a number stories of British subs tracking soviet subs, some from television programmes.