They are as good as American PGM accuracy recently, and US Sub navigation/surfacing abilities. :rolleyes:

Care to compare the number of sea days the US does a year compared to the Russian Navy?:rolleyes:

??? What is wrong with you? Of course it is due to incompentence and disregard for safety rules. Can’t you calm your russophobe stance down at least when we talk about the death of someone? 😮

Besides, congrats: you manage to contradict yourself within two posts 😀 : first you wrote about stupid equipment and lack of it, now that you’ve noticed that you know s**t about the subject matter you switch to general “Russian incompentence”.

You dont know what a contradiction is.

Most likely this has to do with the cronic corruption that stalks the Russian armed forces, funds for new or extra respirators stolen, none available. But you are so desperate and callous that you blame those who died rather than those responsible for their safety. The reality is that a third of the funding provided to the Russian armed forces is lost to corruption and that is the most likely culprit rather than the individuals whose names you wish to drag through the dirt without a second thought just to massage your own wounded ego.

I assume you also regard it as Russophobia to point out that this is just the latest in a very long line of accidents suffered by the Russian Navy in the last few years that demonstrate with perfect clarity the problems that so afflict that organisation.

OK. Slowly and calmly:
First strike means less missiles to fire against CONUS, or NATO, or whatever. Combined with Ohios in the North and BMD in Poland, Alaska and the US, it kinda lessens your retaliatory potential.

Well, me, for example, living in Europe. I don’t want to have Pershing-redux again in my vicinity 😉

A big NO. Cruise missiles are potentially nuclear anyway – your opponent knows it. Bombers need reaction and arming time – it’s not a first strike weapon, and your opponent knows it.
Missiles in silos that you don’t see, don’t know and don’t monitor (including max. numbers) are another thing.

What what??? 😀

It’s not nonense, it’s hypothetical – and technically feasible, and technically feasible without anyone noticing. The BMD component in Poland is technically speaking an IRBM on steroids.
The combination of hypothetical-feasible notions means the death of MAD.

Well, Russia never had colonies in the way you western guys had, otherwise they would all speak Russian and still have Medvedev as a nominal head of the Soviet Commonwealth 😀
As for forging their “own” destinies, I’m very sad about the fact that they don’t think about their own national interests but only foreign ones (both ways).

Absolutely nothing there has demonstrated any potential threat to Russia, just that you lay awake at night hugging your pillow praying that the evil capitalists dont decide to nuke you for no reason.:D

[QUOTE=RSM55;1320800][QUOTE=Austin;1320649]Condolence to the family of sailors and crew died in the accident 🙁

I join.

Aqueous Film Forming Foam or AFFF system used to combat Class B fires on submarines by providing a barrier between the burning substance and oxygen uses a deadly Freon mixture which kills instantly.
This is totally wrong.
The freon type used in Russian subs is toxic, true, but only after some time (lasting from 4 min to 10 min depending on your breathing capacity). AND it is not a foam: it’s a gas, that looks like a liquid the first 10 seconds (heavier than ambient air).
The normal procedure is not automatic, it can only be activated manually with the breaking of several sealed switches. Molybden controls in the CP master the operation. The Nerpa has a new Molybden, maybe the Indians insisted on full auto, but that would be idiotic.
Every crew member has a personal PDU-2 breathing device, that should be carried with you at all times.
On the other hand, the sub was cramped: more than 200 hands (incl. factory and expert technicians). Civilians accounted for 17 deaths, military suffered only 3 casualties: that hints at panic and lack of experience among civilians.

Stop trying to discount the obvious, shoddy Russian engineering has killed people…..again.:mad:

The most beautiful,

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All I can say is I hope the American voters are prepared for some major changes. I fear they’re going to get them whether they like it or not. As far as I can see the only people who are really going to be upset are the defence manufacturing companies. It is not a good idea to rely solely on defence procurement for a living and such companies always seem to do better under a Republican administration.

The whole principle of democracy will always leave people upset, it is essentially dictatorship by the majority. However for a party that has both the presidency and congress there is a limit on how radical one can be. If you have irritated to many people in just two years you risk taking a pounding in the mid terms. Especially when one only won by 4% of the popular vote.

I think you might be confusing the two. That’s EXACTLY the kind of thing SM-3 is designed for. GBI is to be used against ICBMs, THAAD and PAC-3 against short and medium range ballistic missiles. SM-3 is there to defend the fleet against ballistic missiles and to defend nearby shore installations in the case of places like Japan. Block I’s footprint is such that unless it’s practically in port it’s not going to be protecting much terrain. Block II is another matter.

No, the entire missile defence exercise is orientated against loser countries, that goes for both GBI and the rest of the package. Nobody in this prgram has any fantasies about using it to prevent a mass regional Chinese missile attack.

Lets not forget that a lot of people that are loosing homes should have never been able to get a mortgage for them in the first place. I know of 5 people alone who, without the use of “creative financing”, would have never gotten a mortgage. Hell, I thought about buying a house and would of had to really stretch (meaning, I really couldn’t do it rationally) but I decided not to, since it was too risky. Big mistake by me, I’d probably be getting bailed out soon enough.

Now one could argue this was all a plan by the rich to foreclose on these homes, but remember, Banks would not lend extravagant amounts of money out unless they new they would be paid back, by either the borrower or the government. Hmmmm, is this starting to add up to anyone?

When it comes to economics, trickle down works, trickle up just doesn’t work sorry to say. On the same token though, trickle down economics without any sense of morals or ethics will kill itself, which we have seen a lot of. The system isn’t flawed, the people are. I for one don’t care if someone makes hundreds of millions or billions. Is Warren Buffet gonna hand over all his money? After all, he has said countless times he doesn’t need it all.

What we need is a government that works for everyone, rich, middle and poor. A government that treats everyone all the same, no special perks for the rich or the poor. (Notice I left the middle class out, we tend to be forgotten when it comes to “perks”).
We need a government that is pro-business and pro-trade, time after time it has been shown throughout history that isolationist economies do not work. We need a government that is pro-growth in order to make up for lost jobs due to a changing economy.

But at the same time we need a government that convicts all crime, whether its white collar or blue collar. I ask anyone this, since the home foreclosure market has been brought up. Why isn’t anyone from Freddie or Fannie being investigated? Is the sup-prime mess not the main reason, the match, that got this whole mess we’re in now started? HM, one doesn’t have to investigate to deeply to figure out why.

Meanwhile, I would not be surprised if certain rights pertaining to me, specifically the 1st and 2nd amendment, slowly become whittled away. At this point I don’t have time time to get into it and why, but looking at the tack record of those in power now, I can only come to one logical conclusion. And it’s not one that I like

This whole sorry saga raises another issue, as much as these people should never have been given mortgages they should also have known themselves that they were not endeavoring on a safe undertaking…..a flaw in the education system perhaps?