I am not an expert into battleships but a carrier operates as a part of a battlegroup, not alone. It would be much more apropriate to compare the defense suite of the whole CBG..?:confused: Besides that, the figure about 8 CADS-N-1 Kashtan CIWS comes from wikipedia but the same source provides US$700 million figure for the aircraft and weapons systems, are you sure this is the final layout?

Yes and no. Whilst escorts provide a the main part of a carriers protection there is, in my opinion, every reason to have a very comprehensively armed carrier and in this respect the French with CdG, the Italians with Carvour and the Russians with Kuznetzov got it right. Very well protected carriers. I only hope that the CVX will get VLS cells (16 would do but 32 would be nice) to get a decent load out of ESSM that can take advantage of SPY-3. A couple of 57mm would be nice too but I can not see it happening.

I have my doubts about Gorshkov getting 8 Kashtan’s, 4 seems more plausible. The very nature of the Gorschkov conversion means that the ship will loose the largest part of its previously excellent SAM armament (although it was in need of an update). This is yet another side effect of converting a ship from one doctrinally defined role to another. The Gorschkov was very well defended and most of this is being lost so that she can operate Mig-29’s.

Ah yes , in our context , Credible second strike

700km makes this weapon less than ideal for use against China (if everyone here is honest they know that China and India are never going to fire nuclear weapons at each other) but it does mean that India can put its weapons to sea where Pakistan can to all intents and purposes not touch them. India’s current land based missiles, whilst mobile, do still suffer from potential vulnerability to a first strike.

But why bad reporting?

The Kilos are offered with a VLS section added to allow vertical launch weapons to be carried. What is the point of leasing the Akula or for that matter the Typhoon for tests for launching a weapon, whether it be ballistic or otherwise when the Russians are unlikely to sell either vessel. The Indians are working on a new sub themselves but the vertical launch capability of the Kilo makes rather more sense… cheaper, already in service, and can be used to have Brahmos in Sub Service quickly. VLS missiles in subs are much more useful than torpedo launched missiles as they are all ready to fire and don’t preclude the immediate use of torpedoes if needed.

Thats the point, the reporter is talking excrement. There have been repeated rumors that India would lease an Akula SSN (unlikely in my opinion) and my suspicion is that the author just put Akula into google found, the Typhoon that can launch ballistic missiles and put two and two together to get five. The reality is that neither Akula or Typhoon is likely to be modified for Indian BM testing.

The Subpar Hornet lost anyway. So what does it matter fanboylaurence?

And if the Hornet’s supposed “great” AESA would have made it India’s choice of aircraft to buy simply because the Indians wanted AESA radar, the Russians would have installed the AESA Zhuk on the MiG-29K. Since I’ve repeated myself at least 3 times now, I don’t want to have to repeat myself. So please STFU already and leave the thread.

The Super Hornet was not an option for India because at the time of the planning for the next Indian carrier a catapult equipped ship was not available to India and Indian/US relations were highly unlikely to result in Super Hornets being procured by India. The reason the Mig-29K does not have an AESA is because on was not available at the time. The Zhuk-AE currently only exists in prototype form whilst the first production Mig-29K’s have already been delivered with the fully available Zhuk-M.

Now it is getting somewhat tiresome having to go round this forum correcting all your childish fan boy mistakes. You quite clearly know absolutely nothing so please stop posting or get an education.

Whats the status of the F-414EDE, wheres the funding coming from, does the USN have any plans to use it?

You are lost aren’t you? LOL!! 😀

Good reply when your pointless argument got hosed. . .

So yet again, where are your sources. You are the one claiming that the Mig-29K is going to get the Zhuk-AE and yet you are unable to provide a single source. Therfore it is your fan boy argument that is currently laying in tatters.:mad:

That is completely wrong. The few MiG-29SMTs are demonstrator machines.
predecessors: 407 Izd.9.14, 331 MiG-29SM
SMTs: 01, 405, 777, 917, 918, 919.

That is 6 SMTs.. Long way to go to 150.

Flex, thanks for that, can just ask where you got the figures from?:confused: