I’m no artist, but that engine placement in the PAK-FA looks way off.

The engine is slightly lower, and much larger in size .. no?

For high intensity conflict:

PAK-FA: Initial SAM network suppression w/ Kh-58UShx variants with 250+ KM range along with air-superiority as primary roles.

Followed by Su-34, which is claimed to be more LO than the baseline Su-27 (like the Su-35S), and can carry both large cruise missiles and a large amount of KAB series bombs in 1 sortie. Makes the Super Hornet look pathetic.

Su-35S for multi-role follow up missions for both air superiority and strike with the full range of Russian A2G weapons.

how about a Dionis version of the MMRCA contestants? you can probably do it in 5-6 lines 😉

Except there’s nothing interesting to write. All the obvious is known. How you decide to twist is into some biased BS is up to the poster.

Garbage in, garbage out.

Lots of talk, too little data.

Conclusion: you know what they say about opinions right? 😎

Abramovich should buy it. Wouldn’t cost more than his latest Yacht. 😮

Youre the one whining about an insignificant point pal!.

Quite significant – still an important and the most survivable way to target OTH.

Nice try to put a spin on it. Truth is the US-AM modernised variant was cancelled before the state collapsed because the whole technology was considered unreliable and potentially dangerous.

Liana being ‘more multipurpose’ is great but it’s not a RORSAT system is it?. Its an ELINT system with the same problems the US-P and -PM satellites had. So, not really a dependable ocean recon capability is it?. More multipurpose though!!

And how was the technology dangerous and unreliable? That’s as dumb as saying the USSR couldn’t run a series of satellites.

Pretty sure I read somewhere that the USSR got real time coverage of the Falklands showdown via the Legenda system.

Liana/Lotos was AFAIK designed to replace Legenda, yes.

Apart from the fact that the US-A RORSAT component, the important part, was shut down in 1986?.

Edit: ….or shut down in 1988 dependent on which source you accept and whether you want to take the date of the order to discontinue operations or the date of orbital decay of the last satellite!.

Deactivation of satellites —> flop is your personal and relatively baseless conclusion then.

All Russian military personnel who talk about the system never mention anything peculiar about it. This is the kind of stuff I know for a fact you pay no attention to because you have no Russian language capability.

I see baseless speculation continues. I don’t see anything more advanced or sophisticated, but hey it looks black and cool!1111

If you want to talk about copying F-22 or F-35, the J-20 would be it in terms of shaping. No comments on this either 😉 Tolka srat’ na Russkih.. lol..