Add throw weight and reliability to the list as well. Don’t know if it looks cooler or smells better. 😉

That would be range, accuracy, launch weight and potential warhead carriage. So pretty much every category that counts.:rolleyes:

SOC kinda burned both of your arguments.

But hey, it’s like comparing American ICBMs to the SS-18. :rolleyes:

How exactly were the SLBMs of the Delta 4 / Typhoon any worse than the D5?

Star you are arguing with a guy who thinks carriers are invisible, so you might as well stop.

Jonesy’s biases are pretty clear.

In his little world NATO is unstoppable and perfect, and Russia and any other non-NATO large military power is in terrible shape.

Two modernized fighter jets supplied to Russian Air Force
MOSCOW. March 20 (Interfax-AVN) – Two modernized Mikoyan MiG-31BM fighter jets were supplied to the Lipetsk pilot training center on Thursday.
“The modernized planes are equipped with radar and satellite navigation systems which allow them to detect air and land targets with high precision and successfully destroy missiles, including small-size cruise missiles, and supersonic enemy aircraft,” Russian Air Force Assistant Commander Col. Alexander Drobyshevsky told Interfax-AVN.
He said the Sokol plant based in Nizhny Novgorod had modernized the jets.
“The Lipetsk center will test the combat abilities of the MiG-31BM and teach pilots and technicians to operate the modernized jet,” he said.

Wonder what the upgraded radar specs are for the MiG-31BM.

It’s a really useful aircraft for Russia with its huge landmass, I’m glad they are putting their re-armament money to good use!

What Jungleboy has pointed out it is correct, he has mentioned that despite Brazil has a relatively good industry, there is still poverty, real one, where children are homeless and street children abound, how can you think a nation will have a future if its youth is in poverty how those street children will develop high tech?

he is right specially when he mentions real aspects about the poverty in Brazil, Brazil is trying to build a nuclear submarine and still in some parts of Brazil poverty is endemic, in Russia also is similar, they spend large amounts of money when still in some aspects poverty affects a great part of the Russian population.

Both countries have developed an stratety to coupe with the competing international situation for trade and commerce, this implies to have more domestic technology, Brazil also has developed nuclear reactors that eventually can be used to generate electricity and at the long run power a submarine, however since technology has dual uses you can have a nuclear powered submarine and a nuclear reactor generating cheap electricity for a city like Buenos Aires or Rio do Janeiro.

you can have a VLS to launch telecommunications satellites or use it to carry a nuclear warhead

However it is an irony that many empoverished nations spend large amounts of money in weapons and still have street children and homeless people

What’s more ironic is there’s plenty of poverty in the US and they spend the MOST money on weapons.

Not to mention, you shouldn’t throw around the word impoverished without actually knowing how to use it correctly.

Damn man, America is so poor!

Yeah, the picture strategy is amazing. :rolleyes:

ROFL…

Well perhaps in 10 or 15 years when the PAK-FA is entering production we will know for sure whats the best fighter but until the much vaunted PAK-FA actually appears and is in production in series numbers the Russians are weaker player in the air warfare game, so while it might regain the crown if you like it dosn’t make up for the fact that America wears the crown at the moment and for the next forseable decade or so,like it or not thats fact.

I like you how pull “10 to 15 years” out of your rear end each time. :rolleyes:

Reduce those numbers to about 5-6 and maybe people would take you seriously.