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March 31, 2013 at 10:00 pm in reply to: Eurofighter Typhoon News and Updates #2292605

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http://www.albayan.ae/economy/the-world-today/2013-03-31.1852048

LONDON — The United Arab Emirate Armed Forces will buy 60 Eurofighter Typhoons fighter jets, at the top of a 40-60 range, the EADS consortium Apr 1.

“The first planes will be delivered in 2018. and the system is expected to be fully operational around 2027,” it said in a statement. “It’s an historic decision that will secure United Arab Emirate air combat capability for a long time ahead,” Deputy Defense Minister Saif bin Zayed Al Nahyan said in the statement.

The decision means the country would be able to maintain strategically important know-how in the country’s aerospace sector, she added.

The United Arab Emirates said on Aug. 25 that it would order between 40 and 60 jets during the signing of a framework agreement with the EADS consortium. The Cabinet of United Arab Emirates Defense announced in November 2011 that the country would consider 22 French Rafale jets for an estimated 2.5 billion euros or $3.3 billion), reportedly with customizations.

French plane maker Dassault’s Rafale and the Super Hornet, produced by Boeing, were the other bidders.

The decision has to be approved by the ministry this fall before a definitive contract is signed in the winter.

March 31, 2013 at 9:59 pm in reply to: Military Aviation News-2013 #2292617

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http://www.albayan.ae/economy/the-world-today/2013-03-31.1852048

LONDON — The United Arab Emirate Armed Forces will buy 60 Eurofighter Typhoons fighter jets, at the top of a 40-60 range, the EADS consortium Apr 1.

“The first planes will be delivered in 2018. and the system is expected to be fully operational around 2027,” it said in a statement. “It’s an historic decision that will secure United Arab Emirate air combat capability for a long time ahead,” Deputy Defense Minister Saif bin Zayed Al Nahyan said in the statement.

The decision means the country would be able to maintain strategically important know-how in the country’s aerospace sector, she added.

The United Arab Emirates said on Aug. 25 that it would order between 40 and 60 jets during the signing of a framework agreement with the EADS consortium. The Cabinet of United Arab Emirates Defense announced in November 2011 that the country would consider 22 French Rafale jets for an estimated 2.5 billion euros or $3.3 billion), reportedly with customizations.

French plane maker Dassault’s Rafale and the Super Hornet, produced by Boeing, were the other bidders.

The decision has to be approved by the ministry this fall before a definitive contract is signed in the winter.

March 30, 2013 at 11:26 pm in reply to: 1000-2000 market for a cheap light fighter? #2293120

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hmmm.

Middle East / North Africa:
-still one of the strong markets, but still it is contracting in the areas outside GCC.
some of the “big” old operators:
-Egypt… will be downsizing, cant even afford electricity right now.
-Iraq… will be 10% of the force compared to its large past force
-Iran… Will be effectively 20% of the size of its 1980s force as more and more F4/F5/F14s fall out…
-Turkey, force contracting compared to its 1970s-80s size.
-Saudi Arabia… force becoming smaller but modernised.
-Syria… future post civil war force unlikely to be more than a token air policing force vs the large past air force.
-Israel … depends on how sugar daddy is doing economically more than anything… but even Israel can ill afford to replace its older planes on a 1-1 basis with F35s / F16I etc…
-Libya… will be little more than a symbolic air policing force in future… but with the size of the country it would have to have decent endurance.
-Algeria… force contracting as older planes retire.
-Morocco seems to be maintaining the same force size keeping in mind real/imagined threats from algeria/sahrawis…

Sub Saharan Africa:
-Ethiopia… small air force compared to its 1970s-80s size… as older planes are retired, they are not replaced 1-1.
-Sudan… with the end of the war and serious economic crises (loss of southern oil wells), even their newer planes are in doubt.
-DRC… possibly one of the few air forces set for an EXPANSION IMHO… but they’d need aircraft with long endurance to cover the air policing needs… SuperTucano would fit in perfectly for them…
-Angola… as the over exuberance wanes, they will focus on maintaining a small but effective air policing force… no more huge fleets of the past…
-Nigeria… status quo? potential market for a chinese low cost fighter.
-Zimbabwe… will slowly deteriorate and only maintain token chinese supplied fighters in future
-Zambia … same as zimbabwe
-South Africa… fighter fleet in terminal decline?
-Other smaller fighter operators in Africa will continue operating some SU25s / MiG21 / J7s by flying them fleetingly.

China:
-Its force modernisation continues and the total number of airframes is getting slashed… expect the 500 or so remaining J7 / Q5s to be replaced with 200 J10s only…

South East Asia:
-Malaysia / Indonesia / Singapore / Thailand / Vietnam / all reducing forces…
-Myanmar – one of the rare cases still building up forces

South Asia:
-Bangladesh … like Myanmar, tooling up.
-Sri Lanka… with the war over, expect the force to be gradually reduced as planes reach maturity.
-India… with Pakistan and China tooling up around it, I’d expect the Indians to maintain a large fighter fleet…
-Pakistan … still desperately trying to ruinously maintain “parity” with India…

Europe:
-Expect many of the central European states to continue downsizing and retire the older aircraft without replacement…. or creating “shared” fighter pools for symbolic use.

the demand for lots of baby fighters is exaggerated.
times have changed.

people who want f-5 mig-21 replacements either
1. get cheap upgrades that make them last longer
2. buy used f-16s or mig-29s
3. forget lots of small planes together and go for a mix of long range SAMs and smaller number of heavy fighters that replace multiple types.

March 30, 2013 at 11:08 pm in reply to: how could North Korea use its air power in an attack? #2293126

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It’s really the issue of not adjusting to the new culture shock than any specific discrimination. For example, Hyundai Corporation’s founder was a North Korean, yet that didn’t prevent him from founding one of the biggest conglomerates in the world in the South, nor did the place of origin prevent North Korea born officers from becoming two to three star generals in the ROK army.

Older generation North Koreans above 35 who just came from a society frozen in the 1960s era just can’t easily adjust to fast-paced and ultra-modern life style of the South, so he may find it hard to fit in the society. This problem is not as obvious for the younger North Koreans 18 and below who tend to adjust to this new life style well.

those are exceptions not the norm. the south korean govt has affirmative action policies to help them but the populace dislikes the north koreans. they look down on them. now imagine korea trying to absorb 20 million North koreans. they cant do it. they would have to separate them with borders and restrict movement like how china did for its rich areas

Russia :

– Limited reconstruction investment
– Need to learn a new mother language
– No democracy and freedom
– Limited freedom of speech
– No ability to travel to the US, EU, and Japan visa free.
– Low wages

Korea :

– Full reconstruction investment
– No need to learn any new language
– Full democracy and freedom
– Full freedom of speech
– Travel to the US, EU, Japan, and Taiwan visa free.
– High wages. Even the legal/illegal migrant workers from the likes of China, Pakistan, India, Philippines earn an average of $1,900 a month.

actually russia’s wages can be higher than that. russia is a developed country. in fact per capita income of Tyumen is much higher than entire south korea.

north koreans regularly work in russia so they are more familiar with russia than south korea and they learn russian in their schools as a foreign language.

also russia would likely create an autonomous are for north koreans like they do other minorities and then they can go to work in knaapo nearby and make pakfas for indians.

March 30, 2013 at 10:51 pm in reply to: Rafale vs Su-35 (splitting from Rafale thread) #2293139

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A lot needs to be taken into account, but if you’re only on about radar and missile then I would take Gripen/Raven/Meteor over Rafale/RBE2-AA/Meteor. Never really been impressed with the RBE2-AA.

why’s that? small module numbers?

March 30, 2013 at 10:20 pm in reply to: Turkish Air Force – News & Discussion #2293173

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Sorry problem is probably because of i used the wrong (representational) word when i posted this picture, and you are correct English is not my mother language. I saw that picture at an Turkish aviation forum and only wanted to share with you. The guy who posted it at the Turkish aviation forum claims it has been taken from an CD which is probably taken during this conference. Sorry its my fault:o

you are a good boy medal 64 bit!

March 30, 2013 at 10:08 pm in reply to: Rafale vs Su-35 (splitting from Rafale thread) #2293198

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I presume “every AF” includes the AdlA?

Yes, it is primarily an anti-HVA weapon (the R-37M on which it was based was also credited with an ATBM capability, interestingly enough), but I’d say it would be dangerous enough that you’d do well not to ignore it if shot at. Just heeding the threat might force the Rafale to keep its head down long enough for the Su-35 to dash into R-77 range, and you can fit up to 8 of them on a Flanker (sometimes a honking big airframe does have its benefits).

Nonetheless, Meteor would clearly be a MAJOR headache to deal with – it is set to become the best MRAAM by a wide margin, the only thing that could be better about it is the in service date!

which would be more lethal.. RBE2 Rafale with Meteor or that new AESA Gripen with meteor?

March 30, 2013 at 6:18 pm in reply to: MiG-29 vs F-15 #2293363

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I’ll bet my bottom dollar such engagements have been played out over the desert skies of Nevada. MiG-29A/C vs. F-15A/C.

ask the Jews.. they fought against Polish mig-29s and had a lot to say.

March 30, 2013 at 6:08 pm in reply to: how could North Korea use its air power in an attack? #2293373

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Slowman? He posts elsewhere, under different names, but the style & content are unmistakable. South Korea is the greatest country in the world, its technology is the greatest (except for a few minor things it gets from the USA, which is the second best), & if North Korea ever invaded the glorious ROK armed forces would bat it aside with contemptuous ease in their eagerness to get at the real enemy, China – which, of course, South Korea would defeat, shooting down the entire PLAAF with 3000 AMRAAM & S. Korean AAMs.

slowman is actually Australian trying to pass off as Korean.

March 30, 2013 at 5:58 pm in reply to: Malaysian fighter competition #2293388

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I don’t fantasize about nothing, you’re the one talking about MiG spares like the state of those aging MiGs was relevant to the thread when it’s know for years that they are going to be retired sooner than later.

US spare issue is not my issue is the issue of US hardware users and time has proven that depending on the political climate in Washington lesser friends have ended up with supply problems and unless Malaysia doesn’t become US new very best friend in the region the risk of political strife continue to exist not matter who is office.

you are unfamiliar with Malaysia’s foreign relations.
mig issues are real. why do you think Malaysia has a fighter competition to begin with.

March 30, 2013 at 5:53 pm in reply to: how could North Korea use its air power in an attack? #2293399

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North Korea is the territory of the ROK.

Just ethnic Koreans from China as these people are mentally Chinese, and treated as Chinese accordingly.

But they don’t want to be left alone, they need some $300 billion in reconstruction investment.

The ROK passport is worth $10,000 in Chinese black market, how much is the Russian passport worth? Enough said.

Yes, due to the flood of smuggled Chinese TV sets.

Their diet consists primarily corn and a variety of grains whenever available. And kimchi(Different from the Southern one in that it is just salted cabbage) and vegetable soup(vegetable boiled with salt).

Defected North Korean officers and soldiers said so. There are hundreds of former North Korean officers who have defected.

Defected North Korean officers said so.

China doesn’t trust North Korea.

China supplying weapons to North Korea is like the US supplying weapons to Taiwan; there is always the risk that North Korea would turn around and become US ally leading the China-containment effort, so supplying arms to North Korea is both politically risky and is against the UN arms embargo.

Obviously the PLA is not telling if they picked up B-2 or not.

Because NK and China are not military allies, only political allies that could sour at any moment, such as Kim Jong Il’s secret 2009 offer to the US to become a US ally against China if the US signed a non-aggression treaty, normalized diplomatic relations, and lifted economic sanctions.

That would constitute a second Pearl Harbor and the end of communist regime in China.

Well, it’s obvious that Wanderlei is a Chinese poster and his view represents the typical Chinese views, which is obviously very different from everybody else’s. Chinese actually believe they are a significant factor in the current situation, when China is being ignored by both North and South Korea in this context, and the only thing China can bring onto the table is a possible military intervention in the event of the ROK invasion of North Korea as per the previously described automatic triggers.

sorry you are not familiar with korea. North koreans face lots of discrimination in the south
http://asiancorrespondent.com/31635/north-korean-defectors-feel-discrimination-in-south-korea/
http://www.crisisgroup.org/en/regions/asia/north-east-asia/north-korea/208-strangers-at-home-north-koreans-in-the-south.aspx
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2011/12/117_101561.html

Russians would just let the North Koreans keep to themselves and rebuild on their own rather than forcing them to assimilate to South Korean modern culture.

March 30, 2013 at 5:46 pm in reply to: Turkish Air Force – News & Discussion #2293411

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Sorry, but if the Turkish avaition industry wants to be taken seriously, if they want to be treated with the necessary respect not only as a junior partner, why to they show such a “THING” in an official advertisment.

I can understand that they don’t want to show the real concepts but wouldn’t it be then much wiser to show a generic “fifth-generation” style aircraft instead of a Iranian-playwood-look-alike ???

I know that is not a proof for the capabilities of TAI but this is surely a proof for the incompetence of its PR-department. Just remember BAe build the Replica to gain access to the JSF program, Japanese companies did similar with the F-15J and FX programes but if that is meant as the “entrance card” from TAI to cooperate on a modern desing, I would highly question if they are capable to even assist the development of a model-kit with Hasegawa or Tamiya.

Then better NO image than this one.

Deino

no, those pics were probably never used by TAI at all..
most likely medal just took some fan art and tried to make it official
its not the first time either.. he’s tried to pass off other crappy cg models such as

http://www.turkmilitary.com/data/media/291/-thk-stealth-concept-fighter.jpg
etc and etc

the only thing it accomplishes is that it makes Turkey look bad.

March 30, 2013 at 5:41 pm in reply to: Rafale vs Su-35 (splitting from Rafale thread) #2293437

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Rafale has no chance in a fight with the Su-35. If someone does not understand, I can show detail 😎

Rafale can also carry 10 missiles with 2 fuel tanks.. mmhmm

su will probably have the advantage of longer radar range if it works as claimed.
rafale will have advantage of meteor and smaller rcs.

yes rafale with external stores smaller rcs than su with external stores most likely.

March 29, 2013 at 11:39 pm in reply to: how could North Korea use its air power in an attack? #2296347

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And where do you get such ideas?

Linking gas/oil pipe, railways, and electric grid to the ROK is critical in the economic development of Siberia and Russian Far East needed to fend off Chinese encroachment, so much so that Russia offered to write off $11 billion in Soviet-era debt in exchange for the Russian rights to connect gas pipes and railway over North Korea to the ROK. Why would Russia choose to destroy the good relationship that is in its own best interest?

dont worry, Russia is not attacking South Korea

You mean these people would have a better life as Russian minority citizen over ROK SAR citizen?

if it came to that, yes. South Koreans discriminate against other Koreans like Chinese-Koreans, Japanese-Koreans, defected North Koreans. If they were under Russia.. Russia would most likely make some kind of Korean autonomous oblast and they would be left alone. Also Koreans generally like Russia, thats why so many emigrated north.

March 29, 2013 at 11:37 pm in reply to: Turkish Air Force – News & Discussion #2296351

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This is just another T-129.

TAI took the A-129 and “localized it” to call it a Turkish helicopter.

Considering the cost and risk of developing a new jet from scratch, this TF-X is almost certain to be a localized Gripen. Saab doesn’t have resources to develop two fighter jets simultaneously.

Saab has more resources than KAI certainly.

Also if Turkey didn’t want to be a jr partner with Korea, what makes you think they’ll be a jr. partner with Sweden? TF-X will probably be something different..but using Gripen’s technology. certainly not that fan art above
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