Peter,
Where abouts is that that crashed York?
Charles
Wasn’t the use of the light coloured band discontinued by the time the F.21 came into service?
Charles
WOW!!!!!!!
Gotta do that some day!! Not like I have to go to another continent either. Hamilton is just a few hours about.
But $$$$ Just have to convince my wife that it’s more important than renovating the bathroom, or fixing the kitchen, or braces for the kids, or …., or ……………….
Charles
edited to add: I guess we in Canada may be jealous of all the warbird activity in the UK, but at least we have this!! And I suppose it would be cheaper than a trip from Ottawa to Legends!
“Griffon or Sabre (I can’t remember which) was apparently trialed on one side of a Mossie in the UK”
Ok … why would they have tried on one side only? I’m no engineer but that sounds to me like an experience destined to be problematic. I know they do that with jets. But on a small two engine aircraft like the Mossie it seems to me to not be the best idea. What not try on both sides, so that there is equal power on both sides?
Thanks for the reply.
I knew about the glue problems on the Mossie, but didn’t realize glue technology had changed that much by the time the Hornet came along.
Certainly a good point with respect to the fuel economy. Key factor in the Pacific as you say. And “handedness” is certainly a plus for carrier ops. Last thing you need is pull to the left or right when you apply full throttle on a carrier!
I’m still surprised, though, that more thought was not given to the use of Griffins. The extra performance in terms of speed would, I think, have been valuable for European Mossies, especially once the Me 262 came along. Mossie still would have been slower of course, but added speed would have been helpful I suspect.
The Griffin is bigger. Could that have posed a problem as well, I wonder?
Of course, there is the old saying – if it aint broke, don’t fix it — in a piston engine world, the Mossie was still at the top of it’s game with Merlins.
Charles
Merci Michel.
Un lien interessant, malgres les “popups”
Charles
Umm …
Are my eyes deceiving me … or does the Meteor in the foreground has turboprops? Looks to me like it has props on the front.
If so, does anybody have any more info on that one?
Any ideas when this would have been taken? 1947 or so?
I opened this one up and just somehow know that it had something to do with your trip across the pond, James.
If only I had known how close to home!!
I gotta say its great to see a picture taken in the old hangars at CAM. Sooo much more character than the new museum building, even if they were fire traps!! Didn’t know there was any on Airliners.net.
Charles, reliving old memories
Great shots Papa Lima. Thanks for sharing.
I have had the chance to walk about the main Buffalo Airways hangar in Yellowknife. Like a time machine. DC-3s, C-46s, DC-4s and Catalinas, as well as CL-215s. Amazing. And the folks that work there are very aware of how special their fleet is. One day I’ll post some of my pictures from there.
If anyone is interested in more pictures of the Mars in action, as well as some CL-415s, there are some great pictures at this site:
http://castanet.firewatch.net/firepics2/firepics2/Vaseux%20Lake%20Fire/index.html
In one shot I count three CL-415s, along with the Mars, all in various stages of picking up another load of water. In another, two CL-415s and the Mars on the attack. Also pictures of DC-4 and Electra tankers. This link will take you to other photo galleries, some of which also show some helicopters in action.
http://castanet.firewatch.net/firepics2/firepics2/
Fantastic …… until you remember that this is NOT an airshow. These were taken as the bombers were fighting some very serious fires in central British Columbia last summer. Fires that threatened many communities and caused considerable damage. Nice to know though, that these aircraft are soldiering on, and that they are on the front lines here in Canada, in roles which, except for the CL-415, their designers never imagined. Earlier this summer three CL-415s operated for an afternoon close to where I live, dousing a fire before it could get out of control.
Charles
Thanks for the replies.
Sounds like such “encouraging” news. But I think your point is well made, Glen, that the buildings were never meant to last this long. Reminds me of the so-called temporary buildings that were concstructed in Ottawa to accomodate the growing public service during the war. Most were still in use until the 1970s, and there is still one in use, tucked away near the Supreme Court Building. So much for temporary!!
Do you know if it is possible to wander the Picton site and take photos of the old buildings, or is such snooping rather frowned upon? Sounded from what my father said from his visit last week that the site isn’t really accessible. Or was he just at the wrong entrance? The web site that Peter provided has some great pictures, but they are just a tease. Sounds like it would be a very interesting site to explore in person.
I did notice in researching this further that the BCATP Museum in Brandon Manitoba also has a number of original buildings on site, and it is a National Historic Site. At least some buildings from that important part of our history will be preserved. But it looks from the pictures like the Picton site better preserves the original feel of the site.
Thanks again for the info. I’ll pass all this along to my father when he is back in town.
Charles
p.s. I still think they should have saved one of the hangers from RCAF Rockcliffe here in Ottawa. I really miss those, even if the museum (CAM) collection is safer in the new building(s). Really miss the smell of those old hangers too!!
Thanks for the link Peter. The site looks like a real time machine. Mow the lawn and paint the barracks and it would look like a wartime operation again.
Really seems like it would be a shame to let this rot away.
Charles
Neilly,
Thanks for confirming that what I suspected is a camera port is indeed one. I guess I’ll be getting out my drill to modify the kit, since Tamiya seems to have missed this.
The kit markings are for 540 squadron, though as the photo you attached shows, the markings really only consisted of roundels and serial anyways.
It would be nice to know a little more about the history of DZ383 with 540 squadron, since I like to know what I am building. But to make sure I get the details right, I would like info on PR MkIVs in general, not just this one. Since there were not many of them, there does not seem to much information out there on them At least not on the web anyways.
Thanks for the reply.
Charles
A little snooping on the web shows that this B-17G was part of the 406th “Night Leaflet Squadron”. Sounds like the payload was a little different than that of most B-17s, but it sure explains the colour.
A little more info and some pictures can be found at: http://www.carpetbaggerops.org
Sounds like a little known aspect of the war, and an interesting story to tell.
The site seems to have some bugs and bad links. This page has a picture of the aircraft in question, with the nose art:
http://www.carpetbaggerops.org/406thNLS/406thNLS-TomsPhotos.html
Looks like the lady had a bikini on back then. Must have lost it somewhere!!
Charles
The Canada Aviation Museum frustrates me at times, since you can’t get really close the aircraft. When the collection was in the old WWII hangers, long since gone, it was great. You could walk all around, and under, everything in the collection. And all the right atmosphere that just smelled like old planes. As much as they were firetraps for such a valuable collection, I really miss the old hangers. Wish they had kept one.
But seeing those pictures of the holes in the Hamilton Spitfire, and hearing the story of the guy trying to turn the B-25 prop … well, maybe the CAM has it right afterall. Maybe after the new hanger is done they’ll move things around at bit, and change some of the displays. Just for variety.
Charles
My understanding is that it will not be able to get out for a breath of fresh air, so to speak. Disappointing, but I think that is the plan. I could be wrong though … Glen … Peter?
I’ll probably drop by the museum to visit in August. Any special photo requests?
Charles