i kissed Jennifer Aniston today…..then i woke up.
i kissed Jennifer Aniston today…..then i woke up.
Originally posted by dcfly
Lol….I might have known Slash would’ve been involved, I’ll definately listen out for them.I havent been around cos Ive got a little website, or rather message board, of my own to mess around with (an MSN one really)
Dave
well hes GOD to me!!!:D π
by the way Dave did you see Rolling Stones Top 100 guitarists list??? What hoard of crap…..no Slash, Steve Vai, joe Sattriani, Yngwie Makmsteen, Eddie Van Halen at 70!!! They gone crazy!
Originally posted by dcfly
Lol….I might have known Slash would’ve been involved, I’ll definately listen out for them.I havent been around cos Ive got a little website, or rather message board, of my own to mess around with (an MSN one really)
Dave
well hes GOD to me!!!:D π
by the way Dave did you see Rolling Stones Top 100 guitarists list??? What hoard of crap…..no Slash, Steve Vai, joe Sattriani, Yngwie Makmsteen, Eddie Van Halen at 70!!! They gone crazy!
Originally posted by Saab 2000
That is the trouble, but the EU is encouraging consolidation so I believe this is just the beginning. In many respects it was a brave decision by the Dutch Government to allow such a move, aviation is one of the very last form of nationalism as it gives the country and identity all over the world. Nevertheless, patriotism isn’t the way to run a business with the situation in Europe being too cosy in the past. With alliances and the formation of the EU it is just an outdated system now, okay in the short run it’s an identity crisis, however, in the long run it is the leaner more efficient European market.
agreed with you statemtn that patriotism is not the way to run a business……..but in my opinion a country shouldnt put the national carrier on the line so easily.
Originally posted by Mark L
I always thought KLM was the oldest?
Avianca Colombia is the oldest….started one or two years before KLM.
Originally posted by monster500
the two a/c in picture will be in storage for 12months and will undergo major life extension upgrades before being returned to service in 2004.they will be returning to service in the near future.
cheers for the info. monster.
Originally posted by Saab 2000
Well the need for a more business like approach to aviation is obviously well overdue; 9/11 was just a catalyst. In other businesses such a financial crisis would have sparked off larger businesses taking advantage of economies of scale and the weakest going under. In aviation you have a totally contrasting idea.In Europe it is well regarded that a national carrier is a symbol of a Stateβs infrastructure and identity. An airline might be emblazoned with a national flag, which links the world to that particular country and capital. So from this, due to pride, we see states continuously bailing out flag carriers and political opposition givimg a country a national carrier. Again it is a case of redefining “nationality,” which many countries are uneasy to do.
But I think now though that now governments realize the need for consolidation, they are easing the path. The relaxation of ownership laws and bilateral agreements will no doubt help with greater emphasis on existing airline alliances. You would point to large alliances such as Star or Oneworld taking advantage of partners and taking stakes in them. For example, LH’s relationships with LOT, SAS and Austrian grow and they are turned into feeder services with excess capacity going straight to one major hub at FRA.
I mean, in Europe you have one country having one national airline with an over-inflated network. This doesn’t work anymore, why not have three or four major airlines (I point to the large EU players of France, Germany and the UK here) who merge with other airlines or take them over? AF/KL, BA/IB etc, are just other examples with Swiss’ entry into Onworld possibly being a backward step.
agreed there totally. The national airline is a countrys symbol that also represent the country on its international routes. Seeing so many of them go down like this is sad. Specialy KLM, worlds second oldest airline.
another one…how exhilirating!:rolleyes:
Originally posted by dartie
a question why did Boeing name the new plane the 7E7 instead of like the 787 or the 797 why did they use a letter this time?
like the A380 was dubbed as A3XX..same is the 7E7…it will be filled later in time.
yes … the Australian one looks refreshing.
cool…. guess they wont find any new owner now.
yes thats what they wear…well hardly wear! lol.
9W has a smart flight dress…..worst i have seen is on IC, they wear Indian tradiotional sarees….nothing wrong with that, but atleast update them in a decade or so.:rolleyes:
Originally posted by Whiskey Delta
Hooters Air π π
with there cabin crew…..who’ll notice the dress?:rolleyes: :p
great work Bhoy!