PaulF is right.
While we sit here arguing amongst ourselves the relative merits of saving “this” airframe or “that” one, those that have the fate of the BA Collection in their hands (be it the RAF Museum or BA) are quietly sitting back and rubbing their hands in glee. Why? You may ask….
It’s simple. The only people who can or will show any concern over these potential plans are enthusiasts! And already we are divided. It may well be too late to have any influence on the future of these airframes but unless we try they are definitely doomed. Even if we fail, a concerted and strenuous protest might just make the powers that be a bit more circumspect in future.
I shall be writing to both the RAF Museum and BA today. I urge everyone else who has expressed concern to do the same. Perhaps we should also write to the Editors of Flypast, Aeroplane Monthly and, being airliners, the Editor of Airliner World.
Regards,
kev35
A330-300
Hi, Irfan. Welcome back. Glad to see you’re back on the forums after all the unpleasantness.
Kind Regards,
kev35
A330-300
Hi, Irfan. Welcome back. Glad to see you’re back on the forums after all the unpleasantness.
Kind Regards,
kev35
….There is as far as I am concerned no plans
to build anymore hangars/landmark buildings at Cosford and with a possibility of Cosford acquiring the training function of St Athan room will become a commodity……..
Isn’t it equally likely that St. Athan might take over the training role from Cosford? That is an opinion the local press have put forward on a number of occasions. I admit, it seems totally absurd when the new engineering centre was built at a cost of around £17 if I remember correctly. (Not to be confused with the Conservation centre which is adjacent to the Museum’s Hangars 2 & 3.)
BA, I suspect, would not be interested in taking on the care of the BA Collection elsewhere. After all, they still have a Concorde at LHR that they don’t know what to do with. Perhaps they could give it to someone for a pub garden?
Regards,
kev35
As far as I am aware, the membership of one forum does not automatically exclude one from membership of the other. I have friends in both ‘places.’
Tony.
Happy to come to any meet I can get to, I remember the early ones well. Did we ever get any further with my Hurricane back armour?
Regards,
kev35
G-AMRA (Dakota from Band of Brothers) can still be seen flying with Air Atlantique Classic Flight, in fact, members of the public can buy tickets for a ride 🙂
And I can confirm that it is a fantastic experience as well!
See here…
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?p=817209#post817209
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kev35
out of the darkness.
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kev35
Kev,
There was not one jot of Historic content in your post (which anyway would have been better suited to a PM) I have therefore moved it.
Please don’t feel victimised, I’d have done it to anyone trying to drag the historic forum back to the bickering days.
Moggy
Moderator
Rob.
Fair enough. It really was rather stupid of me to expect an honest answer to any question I pose. Key have proven they have no concern for the way these fora are run so we just have to accept it.
I shall be sure not to question the standards employed by moderators anymore. My apologies to the forum members my actions have upset and to Flood, well in the words of the Beautiful South, Carry on regardless….
Regards,
kev35
Kev,
There was not one jot of Historic content in your post (which anyway would have been better suited to a PM) I have therefore moved it.
Please don’t feel victimised, I’d have done it to anyone trying to drag the historic forum back to the bickering days.
Moggy
Moderator
Rob.
Fair enough. It really was rather stupid of me to expect an honest answer to any question I pose. Key have proven they have no concern for the way these fora are run so we just have to accept it.
I shall be sure not to question the standards employed by moderators anymore. My apologies to the forum members my actions have upset and to Flood, well in the words of the Beautiful South, Carry on regardless….
Regards,
kev35
Stress is very high in medical and nursing situations. However, the article spectacularly fails to consider how much of the stress is directly related to the running of the hospitals. Staffing levels, budget constraints, equipment shortages (anything from ventilators to sticky tape) junior Doctors who are often at best careless and at worst downright dangerous. Has any of this been taken into consideration?
Teamwork? It is difficult to encourage teamwork when so many staff are bank or agency who work just the one shift on your ward and you never see them again. Nursing in particular is all about the continuity of care. With the NHS situation as it is currently, this is rarely possible. Handover reports were mandatory, but I have in the past worked on wards where no report was given so as an agency nurse, I had no idea what was wrong with the patients I was entrusted to care for.
Personally, unless the money is provided to secure the infrastructure and to provide adequate staffing levels, I don’t see how these talks will help. However, if proper staffing levels were adhered to and the buget was aavailable to adequately provision wards, then these talks may well have a beneficial effect.
Regards,
kev35
Stress is very high in medical and nursing situations. However, the article spectacularly fails to consider how much of the stress is directly related to the running of the hospitals. Staffing levels, budget constraints, equipment shortages (anything from ventilators to sticky tape) junior Doctors who are often at best careless and at worst downright dangerous. Has any of this been taken into consideration?
Teamwork? It is difficult to encourage teamwork when so many staff are bank or agency who work just the one shift on your ward and you never see them again. Nursing in particular is all about the continuity of care. With the NHS situation as it is currently, this is rarely possible. Handover reports were mandatory, but I have in the past worked on wards where no report was given so as an agency nurse, I had no idea what was wrong with the patients I was entrusted to care for.
Personally, unless the money is provided to secure the infrastructure and to provide adequate staffing levels, I don’t see how these talks will help. However, if proper staffing levels were adhered to and the buget was aavailable to adequately provision wards, then these talks may well have a beneficial effect.
Regards,
kev35
Interesting. I think Harris believed and therefore directed Bomber Command operations in the way he did as a drive to win the war by air power. At a time when Bomber Command was the only way of hitting back it was undoubtedly good for morale and the knock on effect of diverting some German forces to defensive duties may have played an important part in other areas. As the German Officer says in the Battle of Britain film ‘even Spitfire’s can’t be in two places at once.’ This can be equally applied to Luftwaffe fighter strength and to the numbers of German service personnel employed in the anti-aircraft role.
Arguing the truth is not revisionist is it? It’s not revisionist because we are now able to access information, papers, reports etc., which were not publically available when many histories were written. it’s not revising history, just expanding our knowledge and understanding.
The Dams raid is legendary. Although not as successful as anticipated from a military point of view, the effect on the morale of the British public must have been significant. Likewise, German morale must have been dented in as much as forces were withdrawn from other areas to stiffen home defence.
Regards,
kev35
Dave T posted…..
“Did i read this statement correctly….?
Quote:
Originally Posted by ollieholmes
… It is the few people (i am not naming names) that post short useless comments.
Anybody….? “
Ollie.
Might I respectfully suggest you obtain a dictionary and look up the word irony.
Just come along on Sunday for a chat, I’m sure we’ll all learn something.
Andy.
Who’s the author then?
Regards,
kev35
Ollie.
I’ve given you some advice (which you call ‘useless comments’) which I have learned the hard way, through experience which has been costly financially and emotionally. People are trying to help you but you have such inbred arrogance that you cannot help yourself throwing any advice or encouragement back in people’s faces.
I dread to think of the response you will receive from those you will need to help you achieve your aims. Your attitude will doom you and your projects to failure. But, if that’s what you want, you just carry on the way you are.
Anyway, why am I bothering, I wouldn’t know anything that could possibly be of any benefit to an expert such as yourself, would I?
Regards,
kev35
Everyone knows EN830 is only doing this book to save money on raffle prizes…
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kev35