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    Date Posted: 12-Feb-2004

    JANE’S MISSILES AND ROCKETS – MARCH 01, 2004

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    Hermes – the 40km-range tank killer
    Piotr Butowski

    Konstruktorskoye Byuro Priborostroyeniya (KBP) instrument design bureau of Tula, Russia, has completed tests of its new Hermes long-range anti-tank guided missile, which is now ready for series production, writes Piotr Butowski. It is being offered in variants with maximum ranges of 15km, 40km or 100km.

    KBP, which is headed by Arkadiy Shipunow, first announced the Hermes system in early 1999. In summer 2003, the bureau reported that Hermes missiles would be used on the Ka-52 attack helicopter instead of the Vikhr missile system. It has now released the first data of the system, plus illustrations of the hardware.

    The requirements for the Hermes system were:

    a range exceeding that of the weapons defending a typical target;
    the ability to penetrate 1,000mm of armour; and
    round-the-clock and all-weather operation ability.
    The missile guidance system is dual-mode. In the initial phase of flight, the missile is controlled by inertial navigation system (for version with range 15km) or by radio commands (for versions with range 40km and 100km).
    A semi-active laser seeker is used for terminal homing in all versions. Laser designation of the target may be carried out by the launch vehicle, or by an external illuminator located near the target by ground forces, or aboard a reconnaissance helicopter or unmanned air vehicle. The fire unit has two channels, which allow the simultaneous launch and guidance of two missiles.

    Two alternative patterns of terminal-homing head are already under test – a passive infrared seeker and active radar seeker. These will allow the creation of fire-and-forget variants, up to 12 of which could be launched in a single salvo.

    The missile’s high-explosive/fragmentation warhead has an explosive power equivalent to 15kg of TNT.

    There are several versions of Hermes system; these have different ranges and are based on various platforms. Tests have already begun of a missile with a more powerful booster. This would have a range of 100km.

    The ground-based system consists of a multi-round missile launcher installed on a cross-country vehicle. The vehicle also has a radar to track the missile in flight, and radio command transmitter to adjust the flight path. A separate command-surveillance vehicle has a retractable mast that carries electro-optical sensors used to search for, identify, track and designate the target. When shooting from positions which do not offer a direct line of sight, additional reconnaissance and target designation sensors are needed.

    This version of Hermes has a maximum range of 40km or more, rather than the 3-8km of a typical anti-tank missile, so can be regarded as a tactical missile rather than a pure anti-tank weapon. It can also be used against stationary targets such a bunkers, small ships of 100-ton displacement, and slow- and low-flying air targets such as helicopters and unmanned air vehicles.

    For coastal defence, the system can be vehicle-mounted, or deployed as a static installation.

    Hermes-A (Aviatsionnyi = airborne) is intended to replace the Vikhr missile system for combat helicopters, which was only made in small numbers. It is currently being tested on the Kamov Ka-52, the only pattern of helicopter to have been armed with the system. The range of Hermes-A is 15-18km, which is well beyond that of typical anti-aircraft threats to which a helicopters is likely to face over the battlefield. The helicopter-mounted aiming system includes a millimetre radar, plus an electro-optical turret with thermal-imaging and television cameras, and a two-channel laser target designator combined with automatic target-tracking device.

    Hermes-K (Korabelnyi = shipborne) is for use aboard small naval vessels. The version for use on patrol craft is designed for use against sea targets at ranges of up to 15km and relies on homing guidance. A longer-range version is available for use on landing craft and larger warships.

    KBP Hermes missile specification Maximum range 15km, 40km or 100km
    Mid-course guidance Inertial (short-range version) or radio command (long-range versions)
    Terminal homing Semi-active laser
    Maximum speed 1,000m/s
    Mid-course speed for 40km range missile500m/s
    Missile weight (with launch container)110kg
    Warhead weight 28kg
    Armour penetration capability Up to 1,000 mm behind explosive reactive armour
    Missile calibre 130mm
    Booster calibre, standard 170mm
    Booster calibre, extended range 210mm
    Missile length (with launch container) 3,500mm

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    Credit, of course, goes to AFM’s own PiBu. 🙂
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    Date Posted: 12-Feb-2004

    JANE’S MISSILES AND ROCKETS – MARCH 01, 2004

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    Novator offers a redesigned KS-172S-1 long-range AAM
    Piotr Butowski

    Sukhoi has displayed a model of the Su-35 multirole fighter carrying under its wings two KS-172S-1 ultra-long range air-to-air missiles, writes Piotr Butowski. The weapon is an export variant of a missile originally offered to the Russian Air Force by the Novator Company of Yekaterinburg.

    Work on the KS-172 air-to-air missile began in 1991. Alternative designations ‘Izdeliye 172 (K-172)’ and the anglicised ‘AAM-L’ have also been reported. The basis of the new weapon was the second stage of the 3M83 surface-to-air missile used by the S-300V (SA-12 Gladiator) anti-aircraft system.

    A full-scale mock-up of the KS-172 was shown in front of Su-27 fighter at Zhukovsky in August 1993. but over the next 10 years there was no further news of the project. The model shown late last year has a different shape to that of the mock-up shown in 1993. Both versions have a two-stage propulsion system, but in the current KS-172S-1 design the length of the tandem-mounted booster has been increased while its diameter has been reduced. The length of the missile without booster has been reduced so that the overall length of the complete round is unchanged.

    According to Novator, the KS-172S-1 is 6.0m long and weighs 700kg, dimensions which are unchanged from those announced in 1993. Its diameter has been reported as 40cm.

    In the 1993 design, the nose section of the missile was of smaller diameter than the rest of the fuselage, a configuration which proves additional internal volume for the rocket motor. In the current design, the fuselage is of constant diameter, and the tail-mounted cruciform control fins are of shorter span and longer chord.

    The missile is guided to the target by a multi-mode guidance system typical for beyond-visual range missiles. In the first phase of flight, guidance is by inertial navigation with command updates in the mid-course phase. An active-radar seeker is used for terminal guidance. According to earlier reports, the missile carries a directional high-explosive (HE) fragmentation warhead, probably weighing about 50kg, and initiated by a radar proximity fuze.

    Maximum range of the KS-172S-1 export variant is 300km; the version proposed for Russian air forces is believed to have a range of 400km. The missile will be used against air targets flying at altitudes from 3m to 30km with speeds up to 4,000km/h and manoeuvring at up to 12g. Typical targets could include all types of aircraft (including AWACS or J-STARS platforms, tankers, reconnaissance and electronic-warfare aircraft), cruise missiles, as well as long and medium-range anti-aircraft missiles which pose a threat to the KS-172-armed fighter.

    Several test launches of the KS-172 have been made, but these rounds were not fitted with a guidance system. The firing of rounds fitted only with an autopilot and programmed to fly pre-planned manoeuvres is common in the early stages of air-to-air missile programmes.

    The Russian air force did not adopt the KS-172, but opted to back a competing K-37M missile offered by Vympel. It is surprising to see that the Novator weapon is now being offered for export.

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    Hey, at least the seller has a pretty good rating.

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    So there’s no way in h3ll an AWACS can out-maneuver an incoming missile, case closed.

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    Although, the radome could provide significant lift at large angles of attack. At any rate, the AWACS isn’t going to be swerving like a Maserati, more like a Greyhound bus.

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    MAX TO weight of a 707 frame is about 336,000 lbs.

    MAX TO weight for an E-3 Sentry (according to FAS) is 347,000 lbs.

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    The AC-130 is strictly a weapons platform, so vibration doesn’t matter a whole lot. The AWACS on the other hand has a lot of sensitive equipment and electronics, so you don’t want vibration, no matter how many anechoic tiles you put in.

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    Originally posted by Indian1973
    the 767 M2CA/MESA type a/c should be able of more hard moves than old rotodome E3.

    Or the platform for the Eriye- it’s just a regional jet. I don’t think that thing can scoot very quickly.

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    Thank you matt, cheers to you too.

    In regards to the excess weight of the radome; just recall the Indian indigenous AWACS image that some fellows posted a few weeks back (sorry, I forget its name). The supporting frame broke, and the plane crashed. I think we’re talking about some serious weight here, not to mention the effects of the very placement of an un-aerodynamic radome on the top of the fuselage would have on maneuverability.

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    You’re forgetting the radar itself, radar support structure, and accompanying equipment which all weigh a significant amount- the AWACS can probably maneuver as well as a pregnant cow.

    Regarding your Goalkeeper quip- that may not be too far away from reality. I believe there are plans to mount directed energy weapons on awacs to dazzle/destroy/blind incoming missiles.

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    They probably use some variant of a FOTD- fiber optic towed decoy.

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    Originally posted by plawolf
    but how would the decoy attract the missile in the first place?

    Well, as I was saying before, just use whatever current towed AWACS decoys use, and except mount it on a UAV platform for a more believable flight plan, instead of as-you-said, always flying behind the awacs.

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    It doesn’t matter how the UAV flies as long as it decoys the missile and takes the hit.

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    Well of course you can have your fighters if you like, but no sense in not having some more security? The UAV doesn’t have to fly any terribly difficult moves- perhaps just fly level with occasional turning.

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    Originally posted by plawolf
    not that simple, the UAV will have to fly close to the a/c its protecting or else the missile might ignore it completely; it cant fly too close or it might do the job of the enemy missile instead. and do remeber that itself and the AWACS will be doing highly unpredicatble and fast manuvers to try to throw off the incoming missile at this time. maned a/c would be hard pressed to do all that, and i strongely doubt that current UAV guidence tech is up for the job.

    and besides, UAVs with endurance that can match AWACS’ have got to be the size of preditors, which costs millions apiece. add the cost of the new nav computers and sensors needed to do the job of imitating the AWACS intelegently and safely, and the bill might easily run into tens of millions. might be cheaper to just assign a fighter or two to each AWACS and have them go out and try to shoot down any incoming missiles.

    Most of the UAVs can be controlled manually, so put an operator on the awacs and let him control it. I would be surprised if the uavs did not have some sort of backup manual control. No real fancy maneuvering required. As for the price, well, it’s still cheaper than losing an awacs and all its operators (who cost millions to train).

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