Well, I copied this from the “just a nice pic” thread ..

providing this is not a photoshopped image .. what is this I see? rivets and square faced panels on production examples of the F-22? …

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I never quite got the fascination with the 1.44.

Too little, too late, uninspiring and disappointing… Personally I think it is like an XF103-F2 or similar…

Not sure why everyone thinks it’s the bomb …

It’s not “to be VLO you don’t emit” that makes you effective, it’s controlling your emissions. This is where careful design, AESA radars, and most importantly, narrow-beam datalinks come into play.

Btw, based on publicly available data, low band radars increase a VLO airframe by about 10dbm. Low band radar is by no means a way of making your advantage “fade away”. Besides, if it makes it harder for a VLO airframe to approach, what do you think it will do to a 4th gen jet?

A VLO airframe will always have an advantage because anything you use to detect it will make 4th gen jets even more vulnerable.

There is an amazing assumption here that missiles from the F-35 will be 100% leathal, that the 4th gen planes will not detect a missile launch and that LPI radars only work one way.

If all the planes are armed with HOBS weapons what difference does it make?
With the exception on a guns only fight any WVR fight with these weapons will be a wash.

Given enough time and enough tries planes with high agility will potentially find a move that maximises their chances of evading a HOBS weapon. Planes with low agility have none.

Every deal Greece made after 1980 for aircraft. All were overpriced and ill conceived.

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Damn that plane looks good. It looks like a race car amongst sedans..

HOJ mod isnt magic. It probable works quite well against old jammers but against new ones it efficiency is probable very low.

i’m not entirely sure you could have a trully LPI jammer. Jammers have to “overpower” the receiver, even if you make a white noise type jammer, one would still be able to find which direction the signal is stronger from.

Need to think this through though

Me neither.. :eagerness: But I think some drawings already were posted here.. by Paralay, IIRC..

I gave it a go with MSpaint ( I know, I know …) it kinda shows my age.
Well it’s not any good but it gives you an idea.

I used the port missile on the port bay to keep things closer to perspective.

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Also ..why aren’t these two saw toothed like the bays? Their surface is part of the surface structure, isn’t that sensible that they would be sawtoothed?

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