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  • in reply to: The death knell for many UK aviation events? #851143
    Mike J
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    It was something quoted by David Learmount:

    “Learmount said that pilots take calculated risks at airshows because that is what people want to see. “Airshows are the biggest spectator sport in this country – more people go live to airshows than go to football.”

    I am not sure if he was the first to suggest this, but his quote dates from just post-Shoreham. And I am only posting what he said – not agreeing with any of it!

    Palpable nonsense. A quick tally shows that UK League football attendance last season (excluding non-league, the Scottish lower divisions and Northern Ireland) was over 33 million. That means the total, when all attendances at games from pub leagues up to Internationals is added in probably tops 50 million. I don’t think even the most ardent airshow advocate could claim the same for airshows with any degree of credibility. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_attendance_figures_at_domestic_professional_sports_leagues

    in reply to: The death knell for many UK aviation events? #851204
    Mike J
    Participant

    Minority sport?! You perhaps missed the memo that said airshows are the second most popular outdoor attraction in the UK. The first is football.

    It’s an interesting claim, oft repeated, and one that I’ve seen no actual figures to back up. I think it came originally from an airshow commentator but stand to be corrected on that.

    I suspect that if true figures were found live music would almost certainly feature well above airshows in terms of spectator numbers. Possibly sports such as rugby and cricket as well, maybe motorsport too.

    Regardless, it is going to be a hard sell to the general public these days. 20 years ago many non-aviation folk I know made the annual trip to Mildenhall, at a tenner a carload it made a cheap family day out. I suspect most of them don’t visit any airshows now. With the demise of the big military shows that attracted many casual local visitors at reasonable cost, airshows have become much more of a specialist enthusiast pastime over the past 20 or so years.

    Therefore we all need to do our bit. I’ve replied to the CAA consultation document and written to my MP. I wonder how many posting on here have done the same. I’ve also signed the online petition, although I’m frankly skeptical that these things have any effect whatsoever on Government policy.

    in reply to: Duxford Air Show + Car Parking Tickets #851985
    Mike J
    Participant

    Whenever I’m at Flying Legends I’m always impressed by the numbers of people there that have travelled from…America; I wonder what these guys will be thinking reading us British moaning about an extra £5 for parking the car?

    They are absolutely horrified at the price of everything in the UK, not least airshow tickets. As a comparison, Chino (a similar show, but with flying all day) costs $25 a day on the gate, or $55 (about £37) in advance for a 3-day pass including parking and pre-show flightline access (something else for which Duxford charges extra – another £5 IIRC)

    in reply to: Duxford Air Show + Car Parking Tickets #851990
    Mike J
    Participant

    So the parking charge does apply to all airshows !

    No. Read the posts. There is no additional parking charge for Flying Legends.

    in reply to: Battle of Britain Hall, Hendon ~ 23Jan16 #852934
    Mike J
    Participant

    They are being moved into the main halls and the (former) BoB Hall is being repurposed on a theme of the first 100 years of the RAF

    in reply to: The death knell for many UK aviation events? #853692
    Mike J
    Participant

    The costs apply according to who is organising the airshow. If it is a civilian-run show under the jurisdiction of the CAA (regardless of whether individual participants are civilian or military) the fees must be paid to the CAA. If it is a military show which comes under the auspices of the MAA, then I understand that no fee is levied by the CAA.

    in reply to: Shoreham Investigation Update #853750
    Mike J
    Participant

    Surely the only similarity can be that it was at an air display !

    And, apparently, the same pilot.

    in reply to: The death knell for many UK aviation events? #854019
    Mike J
    Participant

    I’m not sure where you get your figures from Easyrider. The 5,000 attendees for an OW show sounds like a made-up number (with a degree of wishful thinking attached)

    The true figures are readily available online at: http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Accounts/Ends34/0000307534_AC_20141031_E_C.pdf

    They show that in 2014 (the last year for which figures are available) a total of 18,684 people attended airshows there, so an average of around 2,000 per event.

    The increase in cost is not £900 per event, but around £2,000, as there is also a doubling of the event fee as well as the new post-event charge. That means an addition of around £20,000 to the cost of events at OW of the course of a season, a not inconsiderable sum. And that is before any possible increases in insurance, policing costs and charges made by visiting display items (which will presumably also need to increase in order to recover the additional costs they will be incurring) etc.

    in reply to: Shoreham Investigation Update #854048
    Mike J
    Participant

    …as opposed to taking over the job of the CAA.

    Accident investigation is the responsibility of the AAIB, not the CAA

    in reply to: The death knell for many UK aviation events? #854707
    Mike J
    Participant

    Click on the link at the top of my opening post, it will take you to the document where you can see the rates. They are rated in bands according to the number of items appearing.

    in reply to: The death knell for many UK aviation events? #854726
    Mike J
    Participant

    So far only a proposal ?

    Only until the end of the month (Feb 29), it will take effect from 1 April.

    in reply to: CAA tinkers with display rules in interim publication. #857784
    Mike J
    Participant

    I’d say that four losses (three of them involving fatalities and the other a serious, career-ending injury) in relation to the number of Hunters operational under CAA jurisdiction at any one time constitutes a statistically poor safety record.

    in reply to: CAA tinkers with display rules in interim publication. #857791
    Mike J
    Participant

    …the OEM/design authority has withdrawn support for the seats and no longer supplies cartridges. So technically either the CAA certifies the fitted cartridges longer or every aircraft using that type of seat is grounded by virtue of being unable to operate a live seat with fully compliant servicing..

    http://www.ses-safety.com/Ejection-Seats.html

    in reply to: Messerschmitt BF109 'White 14' #882479
    Mike J
    Participant

    Would have thought we would have seen it at the shows this year?

    I suppose they could have carted it around on a trailer. Other than that, it was never going to go very far until it got its engine back!

    in reply to: the Dam Busters… #882657
    Mike J
    Participant

    This issue will dog this forum for evermore.

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