Compare different splinter camos & radome colours (they were probably Ukrainian in a former life):
http://spotters.net.ua/search/?location=Mokraya+-+Zaporozhye+-+%28UKDE+%2F+OZH%29&
Ethiopian AF Su-27 (in Ukraine 2003):
The Eurocanards look cool, the MKIs look baaadaaas, the LCH looks all wrong and the Super Hornet looks……dated.
Good Luck Cinciboy!!
A pretty impressive list of positives I see, and it should be cheaper and easier to design and implement than an S-duct. I wonder why then, that the Americans and Chinese have opted for S-ducts on all their fifth gen designs…
Patience Ms. plawolf, all will be revealed in good time. If they’re doing what I think they’re doing (and I’m pretty certain they are!), from an engineering aspect- it’ll be a uniquely innovative and a quite radical solution.
If you refer to f-22, it had other design, and powerfull engines, so it didn’t matter. Materials also were not the same in 1990s than today, maybe they had not another option.
According to P.Butowski in this month’s AI, the T-50’s definitive (second stage) engine will be rated @ 18T (176.5kN/39,679lbs).
Is there now consensus on this Board that there is no S type intakes on the PAKFA or we are still waiting for better info on this? Absense of S type intakes on PAKFA to hide the compressor face does seem odd!
No full S-duct? Yes, I believe there is a consensus. 😉

MMRCA & IAF modernisation (pgs.46-49):
http://gb.zinio.com/reader.jsp?o=int&pub=69582310&prev=sub&offer=274582255
My advice to the Indian Govt. & MoD: split MMRCA buy between Gripen & Rafale as a proviso for JV with SAAB on AMCA and Dassault on nEUROn (a renegotiation of offset terms may be required).
My 2 rupees.
More ‘Alexander Nevskii’ launch pics:
Rafale sales team sweeten the deal?
Interestingly, the AURA team has in fact been offered a technology partnership by the Neuron’s programme leader Dassault Aviation, though the offer may not have anything directly to do with the Neuron programme itself.
http://livefist.blogspot.com/2011/02/indias-ucav-to-be-neuron-clone.html
I am curious to know what sort of technological benefits did Italy , Netherlands , Turkey , Canada , Australia , Denmark and Norway get?
FR probe & drag chute.
If the Indians are shrewd they’ll seduce SAAB to come aboard the AMCA as a 50/50 funding and development partner in return for selecting the Gripen for the MMRCA.
A company with the status of SAAB will in turn attract other partner countries and defence companies, there is a ready market for an affordable F-35 class fighter and I don’t see why an alternative international consortium couldn’t deliver an equally capable rival.
IIrc, the Indian Navy is an official development partner for the AMCA, so the F-35B/C may be a fallback option.
On the 2008 Saturn patent, the rear-end has an ‘S’ channel- this is probably an LO feature. Nonetheless, interesting to see how seriously they’re taking engine stealth.

BTW, patent of Sukhoi’s ‘ways of decreasing aircraft engine visibility’ – that everyone thought to be T-50 radar blocker, – is finally published…and well, it’s really a blocker. Kind of you would hardly expect, to be more specific…looks like Cheshire Cat smile I’d say:)not less interesting than other recently published Saturn patent dealing with LO stuff…
Let me guess, 2/3rds [semi] S-duct with 1/3rd blocker. Can’t wait to see the real deal!!
Thanks,
JA.

Sure:

…he’s talking about the second series SSJ-100.
Appears to be operational RBF:

A J-20 and a B-52 😀
Well at least the handling characteristics aren’t dissimilar!! :D:D…oh and never mind Draken- it should be Viggen.
Look emile, this is not the place for critical analysis. Just cringe & wince at some of the incredulous statements coming from some quarters, take the mindless chest-beating in your stride- like Hu Jintao.
Remember, J-20 is NOT the MiG E-721, just like J-10 is NOT the Lavi- at least not on this thead.
Oh and don’t encourage the ‘comedy guy’, it’ll only send him into overdrive.