Just finished vacuuming the attic (around the Halifax pilot chassis). This is a real dustpuller. Well it’s sort of working on at home.
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Cees
Thanks for the info John,
From what I have seen on your site the instrument panel really looks the part.
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Cees
Ahh, the Mk I, make a nice change from al thos IX’es.
But I am not complaining though.
Somehow the Mk I has more mystique than the later versions. Must have something to do with the Battle of Britain I think. There are several more Mk I’s onder restoration I believe, would make a nice Vic during an airshow
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Cees
Interesting project.
Is this a true restoration project or a reproduction one? As far as I know there are no drawings for the Stirling instrument panel. I believe the Stirling Project used an original one as a template.
Any pics for in Peters instrument panel thread?
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Cees
Nice conversion PhanPhix
Is that the Handley Page wingfoil that was tested on PA474?
Does she still bear the scars of the set up on the fuselage skin?
Fluffy????
Cees
If only we had an airworthy Halifax.
All classic Hally-bases
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Cees
Good points,
Andy and others, this is also part of the preservation topic as started, so there is no hijacking as far as I’m concerned:rolleyes:
Over the past seventeen years I have been active in recoveries and the same goes for these items as well. Will they be still present on display in a few decades time. It seem that items just after recovery are in pristine condition other than crashed, but over the years deterioration sets in and everytime you try to stop it, some more originality is sacrificed etc.
Keep it up chaps
Cees
Hi Nils,
I’m afraid not, these cannot be seen because it’s fitted inside the wheel itself out of view.
Cees
I almost did it, Cees, but in the end discretion got the better of me as the Taliban seemed a tad more scary than the MoD here….:diablo:
Andy,
Is France not far enough for you?:D
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Cees
http://www.iphpbb.com/board/ftopic-81805422nx79380-135.html
Nils, the items as shown in the topic on your forum (see above) are retaining brackets for the brake shoes for the Welligton’s main wheels
Hope this helps
Cees
Steve,
Why not, I was born in 1966 so long after these aircraft flew. During the
early eighties I became interested in historic aircraft and the rest is history:D
So I was a child at the time and there will always be people becoming interested in these aircraft.
But as Moggy says, you cannot stop corrosion other than try to slow it down. So there will be a moment in the future that the board of the RAFM should make a decision what to do. This goes practically for every aircraft on display in any museum across the globe. According to Robert Mikesh a restoration has a life of fifty or perhaps hundred years before another restoration is needed (the Battle needed one after fifteen years).
Peter, You cannot do a thorough assesment of the corrosion without completely taking the aircraft apart. W1048 was sectioned after recovery and preserved with that hideous red stuff but the joints between components not being transportjoints cannot be properly inspected without removing rivets, nuts and bolts etc. So without noticing the deteriorating can continue.
Cees
IIRC Guy Black stated that he had enough projects on his hands and that the Hinds were free for the taker (bar the minefields).
It would be intrigueing to know who did it. But it is great news that they have been recovered.
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Cees
Hello Garry – I’m afraid I really do not see why you started this thread – as you rightly say you have made your views known before and your initial post seems to merely have been intended to tempt enthusiasts into joining a debate, so that you could then reiterate your opinions once again?
There are those of us who behave responcibly and believe what we are doing IS preserving and recording the history of which you speak, as well as perpetuating the memory of those who lost their lives – private ownership of recovered material obviously seems to be an issue to you, but I fail to see how this could be overcome as the MOD themselves insist that ownership is passed to a named individual – the licensee. I do agree that the selling of recovered material for profit raises many issues and personally disagree with such activity for reasons that I have expressed before and feel no need to do so again – However I recognise there are those who have views other than mine and acknowledge their right to do as they see fit within the law.
Finally I was surprised by your comment re relatives etc wishing wreckage to be left where it fell, I have very rarely come across such views – vey much the opposite, in fact – in over 25 years of this hobby and talking to and meeting more relatives and landowners than I care to remember, only once did such a request come from a relative – actually it came indirectly as the relatives I spoke to actually wanted the aircraft excavated and wished to attend the dig – just could I wait until the pilots sister had passed away! – the circumstances of the crash were particulalrly tragic and they did not want to risk upsetting her by bringing back the memories, as she was very frail – I of course agreed to shelve the project.
Nick
Hobby? More like an unpaid job to some of us don’t you think. 🙂
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Cees
Cees do you have the drawings for the throtte controls in case one doesnt show up?
Peter,
I have one drawing of the pilot’s position showing the throttle box fitted to the pilot’s chassis. But as the throttle box was made by Bloctube the IWM has no further drawings. I tried Bloctube but although there are very helpful and interested there are no drawings in their archive (or a spare throttle box on a dusty shelf unfortunately).
We will see what turns up in the end.
Cees
Nothing that I can provide I’m afraid but any pics?
Just to keep Mark12 happy of course
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Cees