Thanks for the link.
The photo’s look fantastic, they give a very nice atmosphere about the place and the Clipper. Is the hull made from metal judging by the panels, but they look a bit battered.
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Halifax, but only if I could also have a Hamilcar to tow behind it.
You have my blessing:p :p
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Does anyone know the serial number or anything more about the Lindholme Wellington, or possible serials of Wellington parts at St Athan please? And yes, to save you asking, I am the Mark Evans who recovered the Wellington front fuselage from the Isle of Lewis in 2002. In my group’s collection we have a six foot length of Wellington wing tip which sounds remarkably like the one refered to by Scotavia. It came from the RAFM before reaching us, so there is a connection. We have never known which site it came from. What else was recovered from the Lindholme site and where did it go?
Mark,
Could you give us any information about the status of the Wellington?
And will it be restored?
Thanks in advance for any trouble taken.
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Cees
Hi Peter,
A bit late but well deserved. Happy birthday lad!;)
Cees
Apart from that the early Stirlings were fitted with assymmetrical FN7 turret as used on the Manchester and Botha as well. There is one surviving example I think.
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One answer you’re not going to like is – I don’t like it when an original aircraft is substantially modified to represent something it never was. I understand the rationale, in that (in your case) a Mosquito B.35 never saw wartime action with Canadian forces. But isn’t the museum’s purpose to preserve these artifacts for future generations? Otherwise you may as well just use a fibreglass replica.
That said, your specific aircraft did see service in Canada as a photo survey aircraft with Spartan, so surely that would be something worth representing? As it is, it’s not a B.35, and it’s not an FB.VI. Is the modification reversible?
The former RAF Museum’s T3 has also been painted up as a FB VI. Don’t know if it’s only a paintjob.
Cees
I had been in contact with Giuseppe a few weeks ago and he told me that the website will be updated as soon as something new has happened. So no news thus far.
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Peter,
Are you also going to do the undercarriage?
You could contact the Stirling Project guys for available data on the areas you seek
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Cees
Nice site and great progress has been made.
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Very nice work, bloody amazing:eek: .
The FN5 nose turret as you had modelled is the one used on the Lancaster. The FN5 basic construction was similar with the Lancaster, Wellington and Stirling apart from the perspex cupola which was different per type.
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I wonder what the plans are for the Supermarine Stranrear wreckage that was recovered during the eighties.
And has the Blackburn Shark in the lake been recovered yet?
These types are important for Canadian History escpecially as the last complete Stranraer was exported to the UK and now on display at Hendon.
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ome on Cees no better excuse to see the trenton hali first hand and while your at it you can spearhead an op to get the lincoln recovered..! 🙂
Why Peter,
I am not interested in a Lincoln:D
If I had the cash I for one would be looking to find for some (multiengined)
aircraft. And why scouring the planet when a substantial Dornier 215 is relatively close by:cool:
Perhaps people or organisations should look closer to home. That would save on time and money. Leave the rest to the wealthy people. The horses-for-courses effect I would like to call this:D
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There is nothing romantic about recovery aircraft. It’s dirty, smelly and hard work recovering a wreck.
I hasten to say that what we are doing in Holland in general is digging up aircraft that came in contact with mother earth reluctantly. But as some of you know we have more substantial wrecks in that big lake in the middle of Holland (Frank Gallion’s P-47, Lancaster, Halifax). As our little country is very flat and densly populated (not everywhere luckily) complete airframes no longer are lurking (give or take the exeption) in remote areas. The only possibility is again in our fresh water lake or the Waddenzee (which is salt water). In Britain there are a lot of high ground wrecks still extant where usable components are still present.
The difference is the people interested in them and what they are doing with them. The Boston example is a bad story but the recovery of a lot of Whitley material by Elliot Smock and his gang is the opposite luckily.
There are also thinkers and doers (of which I think I belong in the latter category). Not pointing the finger at you Peter, but if you say that you would love to see the Lincoln recovered, what keeps you? If we have to wait until someone else steps in it could be too late (don’t worry we know you are very involved with Lancater restoration, something that is very important as well).
I disagree about the historical importance of the Lancaster. Why, because it is the most wellknown type used by Bomber Command? That would be an insult to all those that flew in the many other types. Diversity is better than having museums with the same types in their collections everywhere.
Most of the recoveries in the past two decades are the result of private initiative. Large organisation are usually very slow to act or waste a lot of time discussing things instead of taking action.
This is also a matter of taste
My opinion only of course;)
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Interesting discussion chaps,
But I think we all agree to a certain extent on this matter.
And I haven’t even mentioned Halifax W1048:p
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surely for bodies to be recovered there must have been some fuselage?
More like fragmented human remains among fragmented remains of what used to be a fuselage of some description.
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