Hmmm…if there was anything left to be said. TATA for anyone interested is as Indian as it gets.

Incat eyes acquisition in China, plans India operations
Our Corporate Bureau
27 July 2006

Mumbai: Tata Technology’s US arm, Incat, is looking for a buy-out in China. The Detroit -based firm, which was acquired by Pune-based Tata Technologies for Rs411 crore in October last year, is also launching operations in India.

Incat, the world’s leading independent provider of product lifecycle management (PLM) services to major automotive, aerospace and durable goods manufacturers, is currently in talks with a clutch of engineering and design firms in China for an acquisition by the end of the current fiscal.

Reports quoting Patrick McGoldrick, managing director, Tata Technologies, said Incat is also seeking joint ventures in Germany and France. “We are looking for acquisitions especially in China since big money is now flowing towards Asia Pacific,” he said.

Incat’s India delivery center is located at the Center for Advanced Engineering & Design in Pune. With a presence in 45 cities and 12 countries — including India — and over 3,000 employees, Incat serves over 2,000 client organisations, including the top 10 automotive OEMs and the top 5 aerospace OEMs.

Incat works closely with all major aerospace manufacturers in the international PLM market. With the acquisition of Incat, Tata Technologies is now working with companies like Boeing, Airbus, Lockheed for engineering design and PLM.

In the process, Tata Technologies has also emerged a major technology provider for the aerospace industry, which has a substantial share of the $650 billion engineering design and related market.

While Incat is involved in the development of the Joint Strike Fighter for the US defence forces, Tata Technologies is looking at working with the government-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd in India.

Tata Technologies is currently working on product design, PLM and tooling design for A380 aircraft out of its Indian development centers.

The company would also be providing engineering and design services for Tata group chairman Ratan Tata’s Rs1-lakh car project.

http://www.domain-b.com/companies/companies_t/tata_technologies/20060727_acquisition.htm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/30/AR2006083003091_2.html

As U.S.-Indian Alliance Grows, Defense Firms Seek to Profit
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Los Angeles-based Northrop Grumman, the maker of the Global Hawk, has tapped the Maryland Department of Business and Economic Development for help, as it prepares to open an office in New Delhi, the Indian capital, next year. The agency has arranged meetings for the firm and introduced them to Indian military officials, company officials said. “They have been educating us on how the Indian aerospace business has been developing,” said Scott Porter, a Northrop vice president.

Critical to any contract, industry officials acknowledge, will be partnerships with Indian businesses. The Indian government is expected to require contractors to do about 30 percent of the work in the country, aiding local businesses and ensuring that they will have access to critical technologies. Northrop and Boeing sponsored an event on the topic last month, drawing more than 300 attendees, including India’s defense secretary, Shekhar Dutt. Tata Group, a $42 billion Indian conglomerate, receives several calls a month from defense contractors considering partnerships, said David Good, the company’s North American representative.

The Confederation of Indian Industry has led three delegations of U.S. companies to India to meet with potential partners this year.

Army ready for satellite spying

NEW DELHI: For a country which views itself as a regional superpower and has a robust space programme, India’s use of space-based assets for military purposes has been quite modest so far.

But now, the armed forces are poised to take a major leap forward in harnessing space as ‘a potent force-multiplier’, with the hush-hush satellite-based surveillance and reconnaissance (SBS) programme making ‘steady progress’ towards completion, say sources.

A joint Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) and Indian Space Research Organisation (Isro) venture, worth over Rs 1,000 crore, the SBS project was initially scheduled for completion by 2005-end.

But after slippages, the Cabinet Committee on Security has extended its timeframe to January 31, 2007.

While some problems might still crop up, the armed forces say the SBS project, once fully-operational, will allow them to keep closer tabs on troop movements, missile silos, military installations and airbases of neighbouring countries, as well as augment surveillance over Indian airspace.

“Cartosat-I (launched atop PSLV in May 2005) and Cartosat-II (to be launched by 2006-end) satellites, though primarily civilian, will form an essential part of the SBS project. The armed forces will get direct feeds from them,” said a top source.

“With DIPAC (Defence Imagery Processing and Analysis Centre) in Delhi and a satellite control facility in Bhopal, the forces will even have some operational control like shutter-control over the satellites,” he added.

This is not to say the forces have not used satellite imagery for tactical and strategic intelligence till now. The Army, for instance, was getting almost one-metre resolution ‘image feeds’ from the Technology Experiment Satellite (TES).

This ‘spy’ satellite, laun-ched in October 2001, even provided ‘high-quality feeds’ of Pakistani troop movements as well as the Afghanistan conflict. “But TES is almost out of its operational life now.

We, of course, also use imagery from other Indian remote-sensing satellites as well as feeds from Russian and Israeli satellites when required,” a source said.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-2000573,curpg-1.cms

Timmy

Please define the term “state of the art“.
Its a much abused term.

Vikas,

Thank you. Are there plans to go beyond the original 300?

Regarding Pakistani defence exports, they may not be much in comaprison with countries with well established industries. However, they do justify Pak’s expenditure in R&D sector to some extent.

No doubt. But what I would also like to point out is that thanks to these being associated with national identity- things get emotive & a fair bit of criticism can also be directed at these choices. I can discuss several aspects (some which are from people involved) but which would have Messrs Pack. and Gd/Yasser flame away in more blazing fury.

You don’t get it do you. Chief guests, business deals with Germany…what does that have to do with Pakistan and its relationship with GCC countries.

Millions worth of Pakistani equipment has been sold to GCC countries since IDEAS. There are trainers present and being acquired as we speak. Historic MILITARY deals have been signed and revived. OIC has seen a Pak General Secretary. According to you, they’ve even sponsored the Pakistani Nuke program…O bhai….do you get it ??

The DEFENCE relation between GCC and Pakistan is very good. 80 million worth of HIT equipment was recently sold to Iraq too.

Nick76, if it helps you sleep better tonight, the GCC and Pakistan will soon go to war against each other.

My dear boy, India signed a defence deal with Germany (EHOG?)- by all your standards, Germany & India are now uber-alles!

If it makes you feel happier and very nice & comfortable- the whole UAEAF and RSAF are the PAFs!

The Saudi Arabian Abrams are Pakistans!

Reality check.

Aint gonna happen.

Once again- I invite all of you folks to saunter over to Acig, where you may last two minutes before getting banned (but never mind)- in those two minutes, LEARN about how the Gulf States run their show, using mercs from Pak, the west and do their own thing.

Dont confuse handouts which are peanuts for a Gulf state, a few measly orders for ammo placed at POF Wah or a few Muhafiz APCs as strategic.

Get the difference.

These clowns never seem to show evidence for any assumptions.

We already did. But my dear fellow, please dont weasel out and address those questions posted earlier. About PAFs prior experience in integrating AMRAAMs with JF-17s?

When presented with evidence they think that mulstiple posts and rants will somehow help them win arguments.

Mirror, mirror on the wall… 😀

In fact, the most amusing thing is how almost every arms supplier has not only played both sides, but even occasionally given India the finger by selling them faulty equipment, and the Indians keep going back for more. They must be a running joke.

Actually old boy, India is doing what it must to secure its strategic future. But any discussion of that gets you & your fellow Pakistanis (bar Vikas the one sane bloke amongst you loony lot) knickers in a knot!

Even Russia, their biggest supplier still sells Pak jet engines and combat choppers. Even Isreal is on record as stating they would sell arms to Pak if Pak recognised them.

Actually the latest sources mention that the Russians are yet to sign off on the RD-93 thing to China. And as for Israel, sour grapes eh.

A few Mi-17s for transport are “combat choppers” with all the vivid imagery that was meant to imply? 😀

OMG, another example of Yasser effect

These guys have no perception of reality or geo politics!

OMG….

Thats like these jokers calling the Pope intolerant!

You seem to be able to grasp perfectly how the LCA and Arjun are basicly designs for local requirements and industry – with exports as a bonus if they come along – but unable to apply the same to the JF-17 and Al-Khalid.

Then why the multiple comments across different commentators about “exports” being part of the defining motive wrt these projects from Chinas POV?

In another thread we have admonitions about Paks importance to the Gulf world & how many treaties have been signed. But wheres the actual beef?

If it is posts on Pakdef that you want to question – would it not make more sense to question them on that forum.

I assume you are kidding. One would get tagged by the Feds posting there.

With regard to the 150-300 Al-Khalids – production / induction is ongoing – just because this quantity is the initial production does not mean the tank is not going to be aquired in ‘large numbers’. Any updates on how many thousand Arjuns are being ordered by the Indian army?

Fair point, but there have been no reports of the Al Khalid being ever intended for mass production runs!

At least on the Indian side, we know they are planning large runs- eg the T90S has some 1000 to be produced, substantial numbers of the Vijayanta/ T-55 are being demobbed, on the Pak side, none of that is clear.

So the question stands- how do you amortize a run over just some 300 odd units? The current production stands at 100-150 iirc.

Qantaz, in today’s world no one gives a damn about another. Today even governments don’t give a damn about their own people. Hundreds of Farmer Suicides due to famine, AIDS, Polio holocaust, 40% of world’s malnourished children, rape of own women by the military etc.

True, all that coupled with Islamic extremism does make Pakistan a dangerous place.
And remember Shazia Malik?

If you cant debate wrt the topic, then sit out at the door, theres a good boy.

As GreenDay1 pointed out, Pakistan does have good defence relationship with GCC countries.

“I say it does, so it must”. Wonderful. :rolleyes: